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You know what you don't want? The enforce MCC 9-52-010(b) - that's: Obey Traffic Control Device The regulations in the Traffic Code applicable to bicycles shall apply whenever a bicycle is operated upon any roadway or public sidewalk or upon any public path set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles, subject to those exceptions stated herein.
Or MCC 9-52-010 A, B & C Bicycles-Operation-Rights and duties - Basically saying we have to obey all the traffic rules.
And since the rules have not been amended for bikes yet perhaps ignoring the moron in the bike lane and going around might be the right solution. Cause you know, no twitter campaign has ever backfired. And cars don't out number bikes at all...
I'm just here for the show.
By all means, let's enforce all of the traffic laws. While I am diligent about observing traffic rules while riding in traffic, I am increasingly dissuaded from that diligence as I watch cars treat bike lanes like loading zones, parking spots, extended right turn lanes, "buffers" for swerving out of their lane, etc., to say nothing of the near-total lack of signaled turns and lane changes, unsafe and illegal passing distances, red lights treated as "orange" lights, blocked intersections, texting and cell-phone-handling drivers, and - gasp! - speeding. All illegal. All unsafe. All, for what it's worth, a greater contribution to headache-inducing traffic congestion than anything cyclists are doing.
If cyclists are to be called out on their bad behavior - and I can go on about that, too - then let's not pretend that drivers are exemplary, better than cyclists, or even trying to obey traffic laws. Their behavior is, on the whole, more flagrant, more pervasive, and more unsafe. I think that's kind of the resentment behind this campaign, such as it is. It's like - fine, let's stop running red lights. But stop parking the protected bike lanes, already - such an asshole move.
Vilda said:
You know what you don't want? The enforce MCC 9-52-010(b) - that's: Obey Traffic Control Device The regulations in the Traffic Code applicable to bicycles shall apply whenever a bicycle is operated upon any roadway or public sidewalk or upon any public path set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles, subject to those exceptions stated herein.
Or MCC 9-52-010 A, B & C Bicycles-Operation-Rights and duties - Basically saying we have to obey all the traffic rules.
And since the rules have not been amended for bikes yet perhaps ignoring the moron in the bike lane and going around might be the right solution. Cause you know, no twitter campaign has ever backfired. And cars don't out number bikes at all...
I'm just here for the show.
Yeah....I don't see how a person comes on this forum and comes to the conclusion that cyclists following the law is something we *don't* want. Obviously we can't have both things right?
Simon Phearson said:
By all means, let's enforce all of the traffic laws. While I am diligent about observing traffic rules while riding in traffic, I am increasingly dissuaded from that diligence as I watch cars treat bike lanes like loading zones, parking spots, extended right turn lanes, "buffers" for swerving out of their lane, etc., to say nothing of the near-total lack of signaled turns and lane changes, unsafe and illegal passing distances, red lights treated as "orange" lights, blocked intersections, texting and cell-phone-handling drivers, and - gasp! - speeding. All illegal. All unsafe. All, for what it's worth, a greater contribution to headache-inducing traffic congestion than anything cyclists are doing.
If cyclists are to be called out on their bad behavior - and I can go on about that, too - then let's not pretend that drivers are exemplary, better than cyclists, or even trying to obey traffic laws. Their behavior is, on the whole, more flagrant, more pervasive, and more unsafe. I think that's kind of the resentment behind this campaign, such as it is. It's like - fine, let's stop running red lights. But stop parking the protected bike lanes, already - such an asshole move.
Vilda said:You know what you don't want? The enforce MCC 9-52-010(b) - that's: Obey Traffic Control Device The regulations in the Traffic Code applicable to bicycles shall apply whenever a bicycle is operated upon any roadway or public sidewalk or upon any public path set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles, subject to those exceptions stated herein.
Or MCC 9-52-010 A, B & C Bicycles-Operation-Rights and duties - Basically saying we have to obey all the traffic rules.
And since the rules have not been amended for bikes yet perhaps ignoring the moron in the bike lane and going around might be the right solution. Cause you know, no twitter campaign has ever backfired. And cars don't out number bikes at all...
I'm just here for the show.
Hello Simon, Hello Walter... I'm enjoying my popcorn so far ;-)
This morning Clark Street was a disaster on Southbound Street. The bus bike only lane was filled with cars parked, cars stopped, and delivery trucks. I must have been riding outside the lane for 1/3 of my drive.
Who can we call at the City to address this? CPD? Do you call a precinct or general number?
Just posted some new ones from Dearborn this AM. Anyone gotten a response from any of the tagged parties?
You are wrong. Most cyclists in the city are far worse than drivers. I see it every day and I don't blame drivers for being pissed. As someone who rides I am often upset with the people representing bicycles to the world.
Simon Phearson said:
By all means, let's enforce all of the traffic laws. While I am diligent about observing traffic rules while riding in traffic, I am increasingly dissuaded from that diligence as I watch cars treat bike lanes like loading zones, parking spots, extended right turn lanes, "buffers" for swerving out of their lane, etc., to say nothing of the near-total lack of signaled turns and lane changes, unsafe and illegal passing distances, red lights treated as "orange" lights, blocked intersections, texting and cell-phone-handling drivers, and - gasp! - speeding. All illegal. All unsafe. All, for what it's worth, a greater contribution to headache-inducing traffic congestion than anything cyclists are doing.
If cyclists are to be called out on their bad behavior - and I can go on about that, too - then let's not pretend that drivers are exemplary, better than cyclists, or even trying to obey traffic laws. Their behavior is, on the whole, more flagrant, more pervasive, and more unsafe. I think that's kind of the resentment behind this campaign, such as it is. It's like - fine, let's stop running red lights. But stop parking the protected bike lanes, already - such an asshole move.
Vilda said:You know what you don't want? The enforce MCC 9-52-010(b) - that's: Obey Traffic Control Device The regulations in the Traffic Code applicable to bicycles shall apply whenever a bicycle is operated upon any roadway or public sidewalk or upon any public path set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles, subject to those exceptions stated herein.
Or MCC 9-52-010 A, B & C Bicycles-Operation-Rights and duties - Basically saying we have to obey all the traffic rules.
And since the rules have not been amended for bikes yet perhaps ignoring the moron in the bike lane and going around might be the right solution. Cause you know, no twitter campaign has ever backfired. And cars don't out number bikes at all...
I'm just here for the show.
Mind pointing us to the death toll caused by all these terrible cyclists? Or do you have some definition of "worse" that ignores the damage caused?
Not too hip said:
You are wrong. Most cyclists in the city are far worse than drivers. I see it every day and I don't blame drivers for being pissed. As someone who rides I am often upset with the people representing bicycles to the world.
Simon Phearson said:By all means, let's enforce all of the traffic laws. While I am diligent about observing traffic rules while riding in traffic, I am increasingly dissuaded from that diligence as I watch cars treat bike lanes like loading zones, parking spots, extended right turn lanes, "buffers" for swerving out of their lane, etc., to say nothing of the near-total lack of signaled turns and lane changes, unsafe and illegal passing distances, red lights treated as "orange" lights, blocked intersections, texting and cell-phone-handling drivers, and - gasp! - speeding. All illegal. All unsafe. All, for what it's worth, a greater contribution to headache-inducing traffic congestion than anything cyclists are doing.
If cyclists are to be called out on their bad behavior - and I can go on about that, too - then let's not pretend that drivers are exemplary, better than cyclists, or even trying to obey traffic laws. Their behavior is, on the whole, more flagrant, more pervasive, and more unsafe. I think that's kind of the resentment behind this campaign, such as it is. It's like - fine, let's stop running red lights. But stop parking the protected bike lanes, already - such an asshole move.
Vilda said:You know what you don't want? The enforce MCC 9-52-010(b) - that's: Obey Traffic Control Device The regulations in the Traffic Code applicable to bicycles shall apply whenever a bicycle is operated upon any roadway or public sidewalk or upon any public path set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles, subject to those exceptions stated herein.
Or MCC 9-52-010 A, B & C Bicycles-Operation-Rights and duties - Basically saying we have to obey all the traffic rules.
And since the rules have not been amended for bikes yet perhaps ignoring the moron in the bike lane and going around might be the right solution. Cause you know, no twitter campaign has ever backfired. And cars don't out number bikes at all...
I'm just here for the show.
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