Just got this email, so don't plan to ride Divvy home today:
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Divvy | 711 SE Grand | Portland | OR | 97214 |
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I don't get the outrage. They have indeed always said they might suspend service in extreme weather. If you are so committed to riding in snow and ice, I salute you--but then it's worth investing in a bike with the gear to handle it.
THIS.
Kristina Davis said:
Anyone else think it's not a big deal that Divvy is down? They've said from the very beginning they would close for extreme weather.
Are you only allowed to comment on something on a message board when it's a "big deal?"
In any event, this forum has been slow as molasses and the Divvy closure prompted 30 or 40 people who never post to tune in here and participate, so apparently most of you do think it's a "big deal."
Someone put on their internet sassy pants.
h' 1.0 said:
Are you only allowed to comment on something on a message board when it's a "big deal?"
In any event, this forum has been slow as molasses and the Divvy closure prompted 30 or 40 people who never post to tune in here and participate, so apparently most of you do think it's a "big deal."
h' always wears his internet sassy pants.
Kristina Davis said:
Someone put on their internet sassy pants.
h' 1.0 said:Are you only allowed to comment on something on a message board when it's a "big deal?"
In any event, this forum has been slow as molasses and the Divvy closure prompted 30 or 40 people who never post to tune in here and participate, so apparently most of you do think it's a "big deal."
I don't think you quite understand how Divvy works. You see, the city paid them an outrageous amount of money in advance to run the system 24/7/365. In addition, Alta (the company) and CDOT split any profits from credit card rides and yearly memberships. Since Divvy is not producing any credit card rides right now and probably almost no yearly memberships (they had a discount recently which would suggest exactly that), they have no incentive to keep the system open but a huge incentive to set a precedent to shut down winter riding.
I think it's nice that you try to flatter them by calling them a "business." But this is no business.
Carrie Hirsch said:
Keep looking to Divvy for further updates. Also imagine if you will trying to run around keeping all 300 stations spread all over the city. They want you're loyalty & money. They want to be back ASAP. What business wouldn't?
In what way aren't they a business? It's not as if there aren't other seasonal businesses out there that shutdown at certain times of the year? It's not like the kayak tours/bike tours/segway tours/boat tours are running now.
Tom Dworzanski said:
I don't think you quite understand how Divvy works. You see, the city paid them an outrageous amount of money in advance to run the system 24/7/365. In addition, Alta (the company) and CDOT split any profits from credit card rides and yearly memberships. Since Divvy is not producing any credit card rides right now and probably almost no yearly memberships (they had a discount recently which would suggest exactly that), they have no incentive to keep the system open but a huge incentive to set a precedent to shut down winter riding.
I think it's nice that you try to flatter them by calling them a "business." But this is no business.
Carrie Hirsch said:Keep looking to Divvy for further updates. Also imagine if you will trying to run around keeping all 300 stations spread all over the city. They want you're loyalty & money. They want to be back ASAP. What business wouldn't?
It's not like the kayak tours/bike tours/segway tours/boat tours are running now.
1. These are recreational activities, not infrastructure that is used by people to conduct their necessary daily business.
2. These companies did not take both individuals' subscriptions and tax dollars based on their explicit claim that they would be open 365 days a year. Also, when they shut down, they tend to announce that fact before, rather than after, the shutdown occurs, so that people can make plans and do not end up stranded.
One good sign is people on Facebook have gone from encouraging the shutdown to wondering what's going on.
Tom,
Can you be more specific about the "outrageous amount of money in advance" that the city paid to Alta?
The city owns all the infrastructure. Alta is the operator. How much does the city pay to Alta for that?
Tom Dworzanski said:
I don't think you quite understand how Divvy works. You see, the city paid them an outrageous amount of money in advance to run the system 24/7/365. In addition, Alta (the company) and CDOT split any profits from credit card rides and yearly memberships. Since Divvy is not producing any credit card rides right now and probably almost no yearly memberships (they had a discount recently which would suggest exactly that), they have no incentive to keep the system open but a huge incentive to set a precedent to shut down winter riding.
I think it's nice that you try to flatter them by calling them a "business." But this is no business.
Carrie Hirsch said:Keep looking to Divvy for further updates. Also imagine if you will trying to run around keeping all 300 stations spread all over the city. They want you're loyalty & money. They want to be back ASAP. What business wouldn't?
Business don't typically make money by shutting down. (They may prevent loss by shutting down, of course.) Divvy literally makes money (as in a profit) by shutting down in the savings the retain that would otherwise be spent on running the system.
S said:
In what way aren't they a business? It's not as if there aren't other seasonal businesses out there that shutdown at certain times of the year? It's not like the kayak tours/bike tours/segway tours/boat tours are running now.
Tom Dworzanski said:I don't think you quite understand how Divvy works. You see, the city paid them an outrageous amount of money in advance to run the system 24/7/365. In addition, Alta (the company) and CDOT split any profits from credit card rides and yearly memberships. Since Divvy is not producing any credit card rides right now and probably almost no yearly memberships (they had a discount recently which would suggest exactly that), they have no incentive to keep the system open but a huge incentive to set a precedent to shut down winter riding.
I think it's nice that you try to flatter them by calling them a "business." But this is no business.
Carrie Hirsch said:Keep looking to Divvy for further updates. Also imagine if you will trying to run around keeping all 300 stations spread all over the city. They want you're loyalty & money. They want to be back ASAP. What business wouldn't?
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