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Helmet debate solved by SCIENCE

We've solved it the helmet debate with science...check out our blog (copied/pasted below).

 

Thanks,

Ethan Spotts, Active Trans

 

Submitted by jjenkins on Thu, 10/03/2013 - 2:59pm

Our in-house scientist gives the final word on helmets


For years, we here at Active Trans have been the proverbial rope in a tug of war between both sides of the "great helmet debate."

We've heard it all: "Everyone in helmets, everywhere all the time!" to "Helmets are a scam and detrimental to the movement!" And everything in between.

Well, we finally decided to settle the matter once and for all using SCIENCE, slow motion photography and fruit. (Melon is a fruit right? Or is it a nightshade? Awww man, did we just open up another controversy?!)

Enjoy!

 

(sorry we couldn't embed this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF-Ft8FG2Mg&list=HL1380897606&a...

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Permalink Reply by Skip Montanaro 0mi on October 4, 2013 at 10:11am

:thumbsup: Good humor alternative to the whole gummint shutdown craziness.

Permalink Reply by Gort 12-mile Pinklegneep on October 4, 2013 at 10:58am

Gonna be a killjoy and say this doesn't solve the debate or even address half of it, which pertains more to policy and what mitigates overall risk than the effects of an individual helmet during an impact. 

I blame the discovery channel for making people think that high-speed cameras constitute research. 

Permalink Reply by Lisa Curcio on October 4, 2013 at 11:08am

Do you think that was serious?
 
Peenworm "8 mile" Grubologist said:

Gonna be a killjoy and say this doesn't solve the debate or even address half of it, which pertains more to policy and what mitigates overall risk than the effects of an individual helmet during an impact. 

I blame the discovery channel for making people think that high-speed cameras constitute research. 

Permalink Reply by Gort 12-mile Pinklegneep on October 4, 2013 at 11:18am

I think if you're going to frame something as engaging a debate, even humorously, it's a good idea to acknowledge what the debate is

Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:

Do you think that was serious?
 
Peenworm "8 mile" Grubologist said:

Gonna be a killjoy and say this doesn't solve the debate or even address half of it, which pertains more to policy and what mitigates overall risk than the effects of an individual helmet during an impact. 

I blame the discovery channel for making people think that high-speed cameras constitute research. 

Permalink Reply by Active Transportation Alliance on October 4, 2013 at 11:28am

We look at it like wearing a seat belt. It's not going to prevent you from getting into a crash but it could help if you do. Please wear your helmets, kids!

And, we'll be handing out science licenses to anyone who wants one, please just stop by our office.

Ethan, Active Trans

Permalink Reply by Bez on October 4, 2013 at 11:49am


Can you mail mine?  I don't feel like throwing a helmet on to ride all the way down there.


Active Transportation Alliance said:

We look at it like wearing a seat belt. It's not going to prevent you from getting into a crash but it could help if you do. Please wear your helmets, kids!

And, we'll be handing out science licenses to anyone who wants one, please just stop by our office.

Ethan, Active Trans

Permalink Reply by Jeremy on October 4, 2013 at 12:01pm

Seriously it says "science" right there in the headline, capital letters no less.  We're on the internet, what more do you need? 

Permalink Reply by David Barish on October 4, 2013 at 12:24pm

Serious? Hmm.  I don't know.  I will admit I find it somewhat difficult to get a science education from a zombie.  After throwing the un helmeted melon on the ground one of our scientists is seen taking a bite from the melon that was lying there.  That melon was a stand in for a human brain. Just saying. 

that being said, I would  no more ride a bike without a helmet than walk out the front door with my zipper open and I did find the clip entertaining.


Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:

Do you think that was serious?
 
Peenworm "8 mile" Grubologist said:

Gonna be a killjoy and say this doesn't solve the debate or even address half of it, which pertains more to policy and what mitigates overall risk than the effects of an individual helmet during an impact. 

I blame the discovery channel for making people think that high-speed cameras constitute research. 

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on October 4, 2013 at 1:06pm



David Barish said:

that being said, I would  no more ride a bike without a helmet than walk out the front door with my zipper open

Permalink Reply by JimmyD on October 4, 2013 at 1:56pm

At the risk of submitting a somewhat serious reply to this thread.....   ;-)

Since this thread has a focus on helmets and (possibly) ...science; I need to ask a couple questions for those who are more helmet savvy than I.

Is it imperative that a helmet is replaced if it was in a crash, even if it still seems very solid, post-crash? 

I know this is the recommendation for motorcycle and auto helmets, but does the same go for bike helmets?  (If you're ever in a Harley dealership, you'll even see signs near the helmet section that state something to the effect of: "If you drop a helmet, you just bought it!")

I had a crash a couple weeks ago. THANK GOODNESS I was wearing my helmet, or else I surely would have had a major head injury. I still ended up with 11 stitches above my eye, but that's because my glasses broke due to my Mirrycle glasses mirror digging into ground and snapping my glasses arm off, and then the hinge of my glasses gouged me. My trusty Bell Sweep Race helmet took the brunt of the pavement and has earned battle scars that have convinced me to ALWAYS wear a helmet!

Anyways, there's a hairline crack in the styrofoam that's visible when I look inside the helmet, behind the area that hit the ground. I can only get the crack to shift or open if I really force it with my hands. (...ok, that last line might be a softball setup for the resident jokesters to hit out of the park) =P

Obviously, the helmet is compromised, yet the helmet is still very firm and I have been wearing it the past 2 weeks (although, I'm still helmet shopping, by the way). What say you?

Permalink Reply by Gort 12-mile Pinklegneep on October 4, 2013 at 1:57pm

If you can force it open with your hands, imagine how well it could be forced open by your entire body. 

Permalink Reply by Duppie on October 4, 2013 at 2:12pm

Yes, That helmet needs to be replaced. A good rule is: "One crash, and it's trash". Note the use of the word crash. That is different from just simple drop on the floor or banging it against the wall.

JimmyD 3.75 mi said:

At the risk of submitting a somewhat serious reply to this thread.....   ;-)

Since this thread has a focus on helmets and (possibly) ...science; I need to ask a couple questions for those who are more helmet savvy than I.

Is it imperative that a helmet is replaced if it was in a crash, even if it still seems very solid, post-crash? 

I know this is the recommendation for motorcycle and auto helmets, but does the same go for bike helmets?  (If you're ever in a Harley dealership, you'll even see signs near the helmet section that state something to the effect of: "If you drop a helmet, you just bought it!")

I had a crash a couple weeks ago. THANK GOODNESS I was wearing my helmet, or else I surely would have had a major head injury. I still ended up with 11 stitches above my eye, but that's because my glasses broke due to my Mirrycle glasses mirror digging into ground and snapping my glasses arm off, and then the hinge of my glasses gouged me. My trusty Bell Sweep Race helmet took the brunt of the pavement and has earned battle scars that have convinced me to ALWAYS wear a helmet!

Anyways, there's a hairline crack in the styrofoam when I look inside the helmet behind the area that hit the ground. I can only get the crack to shift or open if I really force it with my hands. Obviously, the helmet is compromised, yet the helmet is still very firm.

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