Salmoning poll
I ended up in West Town during the tail end of rush hour tonight, and saw a ridiculous amount of salmoning on the way there.... just wondering on average how often folks experience a rider coming at you going the wrong way.
How many times have you experienced it in the past week/month, and is there a place and time where you think you're more likely to encounter it? Have you noticed repeat offenders? Are there folks who seem to be doing it deliberately to endanger/scare the right-way riders?
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Permalink Reply by Maurice on
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I think their age might be significant in a different way. Growing up in Chicago in the late 1970s and early '80s, we were taught to bike against the flow of traffic because it (foolishly) was believed to be safer since you could see the cars coming.
It was a different time. Don't even get me started on helmets, seat belts, and second-hand smoke.
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Surprised by all the references to Augusta. I bike Augusta between Western and Ashland 10x/week and have never once seen it.
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Permalink Reply by william on
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How do you say "wrong way, dude!" in Spanish? "Incorrectamente, El Vato!" maybe..?
William Beck said:I commute daily from Uptown to Jefferson Park Blue Line. Lawrence Ave. And I'd say 3 out of 5 days I see a Hispanic male (30 years old or more) salmon. I always say "Wrong way, dude!" as we avoid that dangerous near miss.
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Permalink Reply by Vitaliy on
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Oh West Town especially down division between Cali and Western. The folks there dont care for the rules and telling them wont change anything either. I just deal with it and squeeze slightly to the left while watching my back for cars.
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Permalink Reply by Sarah D. on
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I'm on the north end of town and see them on Damen, even. I've often wondered what to say and how to say it - salmoning in the bike lane, or riding on sidewalks (so prevalent around Irving Park Road/Montrose between Western Ave. and California).
Like others have said, they are typically older men, some with helmets, most without, never with lights. Fold-em-up rear rack baskets seem rampant in this crowd, too, randomly.
The few times I've said something, I have either confused them into thinking they should flirt with me, or they've gotten very angry. It's just weird and frustrating. How do we communicate it best?
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Lots of salmon on Kenmore north of Berwyn today. Everyone in too much of a rush to get to the lake to go an extra block over, I guess.
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I often hear this sentiment but I'd never really pictured it in my head until this morning. I'm imagining an idyllic eden in which the school's lawn is littered with bicycles every morning, and the idea that someone might steal a bike would not have been possible to imagine.
True? Or did the kids all lock their bikes up to some massive bike rack?
Jeff Schneider said:most of us rode our bikes to school
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Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on
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I suppose it depends on where you grew up.
Bike racks used to be ubiquitous at schools-- the "wheel bender" variety has been around in its current form all of my lifetime....
Sounds like I am a bit younger than Jeff, but where I grew up (Niles) you definitely locked your bike (thin cable lock or chain with a padlock, or more often a combination lock.) I never rode my bike to school (and can't think of anyone else who did) but got it stolen more than once by just leaving it on the kickstand with no lock outside a store (always seemed to get it back somehow though.)
Alex Z said:I often hear this sentiment but I'd never really pictured it in my head until this morning. I'm imagining an idyllic eden in which the school's lawn is littered with bicycles every morning, and the idea that someone might steal a bike would not have been possible to imagine.
True? Or did the kids all lock their bikes up to some massive bike rack?
Jeff Schneider said:most of us rode our bikes to school
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:D Thanks for the responses.
I saw a guy biking the wrong way up Clark St, at Lake, this morning. Headphones on as well. Not the greatest move, I think.
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Permalink Reply by Lizzy M. on
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I see it people riding the wrong way down one-way streets every day on either Briar or Barry in Lakeview (and about once a week a woman driving a sage-colored SUV rides the wrong way down Briar to pull into her building's parking garage. She always swears a blue streak at me for biking in *her* way).
It makes me angry because I assume the risks I take biking in traffic, but I don't agree to your making it more unsafe by coming head-on at me the wrong way down a one-way street. Plus, I don't really know the best way to react. I don't plan to swerve in front of the car behind me to avoid you; I can't move through the parked cars on the other side of me to avoid you; coming to a dead stop seems wrong. I'd like to just run into you, but that's not exactly a good solution.I don't know that I've ever seen someone riding the wrong way in the bike lane, although joggers do it (I know, peds are suppose to walk facing traffic, but they're not supposed to be in the bike lane) along Halsted all the time.
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Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on
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I've seen salmoning in the Halsted bike lanes through Boystown all too many times over the last several years, usually at night, always guys - on bikes, skates or skateboards.
Lizzy M. said:....I don't know that I've ever seen someone riding the wrong way in the bike lane, although joggers do it (I know, peds are suppose to walk facing traffic, but they're not supposed to be in the bike lane) along Halsted all the time.
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