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Permalink Reply by Jason W on January 28, 2011 at 11:37am

I've always been a blue liner, and I have to say I was always surprised at how many stop there are on the red line up there. It's kind of excessive frankly.

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Permalink Reply by David on January 28, 2011 at 5:25pm

I used to live just south of the Jarvis stop, and the constant stops on the red line made the trip to the loop ridiculously long and annoying.  I think that closing some of the stops and opening alternate entrances to others would be a great idea up there.

 

This is one of those situations where the vast majority of riders would gain a little bit every day from the closings, but a very small number would lose a lot. Overall, it's a big time saver for commuters in general, but politically it's really hard to achieve things like this.  If 99% of the riders gain a few minutes but 1% lose 15 minutes a day, it's that 1% who will show up at the meetings.

 

Jason W said:

I've always been a blue liner, and I have to say I was always surprised at how many stop there are on the red line up there. It's kind of excessive frankly.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Zumwalt on January 29, 2011 at 1:05pm

Instead pf permanently closing stops they should try what the 1/9 did in Manhattan which was a 2 train line and only have certain stops open during rush periods/daytime weekday hours then close overnight/weekends besides the Purple only runs on weekdays anyway, why inconvenience people who use it to work in the city?

 

Also the CTA owns most if not all of the property directly adjacent to these stops where people set up business, close the stop and you also lose revenue.

 

Thorndale is dead after 10pm and Granville is 3 blocks away so that wouldn't really be an inconvenience plus the 147 Xpress runs down Sheridan, 151 runs all night.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on January 30, 2011 at 6:36am

Mike, I've got some timetables to show you.

 

http://www.transitchicago.com/assets/1/rail_route_schedules/Purple_...

 

Mike Zumwalt said:

besides the Purple only runs on weekdays anyway

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Permalink Reply by Dan Korn on January 30, 2011 at 7:17pm

Well, looks like it's a non-issue after all, according to Jon Hilkevitch.

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Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on January 31, 2011 at 2:37am

That might be a better compromise.

 

About Thorndale, I used to live near there years ago.  It was dead after 10, and that doesn't seem to have changed.  Thorndale was my closest stop, but I used the 147 or 151 bus at night, because the area around the Thorndale station was a bit sketchy at night.  Doesn't seem like that's changed much either.

 

With Bus Tracker, it's a lot easier to avoid spending long times waiting on the street for a bus.

Mike Zumwalt said:

Instead pf permanently closing stops they should try what the 1/9 did in Manhattan which was a 2 train line and only have certain stops open during rush periods/daytime weekday hours then close overnight/weekends besides the Purple only runs on weekdays anyway, why inconvenience people who use it to work in the city?

 

Also the CTA owns most if not all of the property directly adjacent to these stops where people set up business, close the stop and you also lose revenue.

 

Thorndale is dead after 10pm and Granville is 3 blocks away so that wouldn't really be an inconvenience plus the 147 Xpress runs down Sheridan, 151 runs all night.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Anne Alt on January 31, 2011 at 2:48am

I didn't read it as being a non-issue.  More like one that won't happen right away.

 

Offering feedback on this plan is worthwhile so that the CTA gets the message about which stops really matter to their riders. If they hear that closing stations is NOT an acceptable option to us, then hopefully they'll take that idea off the table.  They need to hear from lots of us to get that message.

 

I really don't want to see Jarvis close.  It would be a public safety issue for those folks who live near Jarvis and feel safer going there than to Howard or Morse.  It would also be a disaster for the great little business district around Jarvis and Greenview.  If the station were closed, that area would really be hurt.  Reduced traffic to those businesses would likely translate into some going under as well as increased street crime.  That was the pattern when that location had fewer viable businesses.  Good businesses went under and were replaced by vacant storefronts or businesses that attracted problems.

 

I agree with Dan that we need more service in the city overall, not less.  Areas that lack service need to get service.  Erasing the disparity in service between different areas of the city should be a long-term goal. 

 

Dan Korn said:

Well, looks like it's a non-issue after all, according to Jon Hilkevitch.

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Permalink Reply by Jason W on January 31, 2011 at 4:01am

The problem is they might not have the tracks and switches to accommodate this, which would, of course, cost money. They are trying to save money by closing stops, this is just the opposite.

Mike Zumwalt said:

Instead pf permanently closing stops they should try what the 1/9 did in Manhattan which was a 2 train line and only have certain stops open during rush periods/daytime weekday hours then close overnight/weekends besides the Purple only runs on weekdays anyway, why inconvenience people who use it to work in the city?

 

Also the CTA owns most if not all of the property directly adjacent to these stops where people set up business, close the stop and you also lose revenue.

 

Thorndale is dead after 10pm and Granville is 3 blocks away so that wouldn't really be an inconvenience plus the 147 Xpress runs down Sheridan, 151 runs all night.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on January 31, 2011 at 4:15am

My wife tells me that the Red Line used to have an A/B system years ago.  There were A trains that stopped at only certain stations once it got out from downtown, and B trains that only stopped at certain other stations as they got out of town, and AB trains that stopped at all stations.  You had to look for the letter you wanted before you got onto a train while downtown to make sure it stopped at the station  you wanted to get off on.

 

There was no need for switching of tracks or passing of trains as no train stayed in the station long enough to cause the train behind it to have to wait.  The theory was that there was enough time between trains that the slinky of alternatingly stopping trains never bumped into itself.

 

But that was many years ago. She doesn't know why they stopped doing this.

 

Jason W said:

The problem is they might not have the tracks and switches to accommodate this, which would, of course, cost money. They are trying to save money by closing stops, this is just the opposite.

Mike Zumwalt said:

Instead pf permanently closing stops they should try what the 1/9 did in Manhattan which was a 2 train line and only have certain stops open during rush periods/daytime weekday hours then close overnight/weekends besides the Purple only runs on weekdays anyway, why inconvenience people who use it to work in the city?

 

Also the CTA owns most if not all of the property directly adjacent to these stops where people set up business, close the stop and you also lose revenue.

 

Thorndale is dead after 10pm and Granville is 3 blocks away so that wouldn't really be an inconvenience plus the 147 Xpress runs down Sheridan, 151 runs all night.

 

 

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