Swap-O-Rama-- Saturday June 12 2010

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Permalink Reply by Ron on June 9, 2010 at 8:12am

Looks like I'm buying coffee..

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 9, 2010 at 8:29am

I'm going to try to get down there is there is a ride leaving from the north side...

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on June 9, 2010 at 8:36am

Good question-- Ron/anyone do you want to host a north side meetup/ride?
Coffee and donuts is huge.
I'm at 24th/Western, would make more sense for me to just head straight there.

notoriousDUG said:

I'm going to try to get down there is there is a ride leaving from the north side...

Permalink Reply by Laura on June 9, 2010 at 8:39am

Ill prob just meet everyone down there again. My 'loaner bike' (stupid theives) won't let me keep up with you guys for that distance.

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on June 9, 2010 at 8:50am

You obviously have not payed attention to how slow I ride...

Laura said:

Ill prob just meet everyone down there again. My 'loaner bike' (stupid theives) won't let me keep up with you guys for that distance.

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on June 9, 2010 at 11:04pm

OK, let's nail down a plan and then I'll send a message to the group asking for a final RSVP and phone numbers.

Ron, you out there? Will you host a meetup at the same time and place as usual?

Permalink Reply by igz on June 10, 2010 at 11:08am

would we present ourselves at the council as a 'vigilante' group or just bring our findings to their attention? do you think we would be telling them something they dont already know, or is it more to say that WE know, too?

H3N3 said:

Will go through and summarize for Saturday later in the week.

A suggestion from a well respected bike advocate in regard specifically to Swap-O-Rama-- attend a Mayor's Bicycle Advisory Council meeting and bring it to the city's attention.

Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by Marty A. on June 10, 2010 at 11:40am

You do ride slow . . .

Permalink Reply by Kevin C Dormant on June 10, 2010 at 1:10pm

What began as an ad hoc collection of individuals now has a name, its own chainlink sub-group, and over 20 self-identified members. Efforts have been undertaken to establish a protocol and identify tasks. Notwithstanding my inherent suspicion of group behavior, it seems to me that there are a number of different identified objectives for this group:

-Eliminate or reduce Bike Theft;
-Capture Bike Thieves;
-Photograph Bike Thieves;
-Capture “known” vendors of stolen bicycles;
-Photograph “known” vendors of stolen bicycles;
-Alert the authorities (police, alderman, Bicycle Advisory Council and/or City Council) to market(s) trafficking in stolen bicycles; and
-Recover stolen bicycles.

I believe each of these objectives has some merit, but also believe that some of these objectives are mutually exclusive.

Do we also need to refine objectives?


iggi said:

would we present ourselves at the council as a 'vigilante' group or just bring our findings to their attention? do you think we would be telling them something they dont already know, or is it more to say that WE know, too?

H3N3 said:

Will go through and summarize for Saturday later in the week.

A suggestion from a well respected bike advocate in regard specifically to Swap-O-Rama-- attend a Mayor's Bicycle Advisory Council meeting and bring it to the city's attention.

Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on June 10, 2010 at 8:39pm

I'm actually not too excited about this idea personally, just passing it along because he took the time to call me and present it. I wouldn't be able to make such a meeting myself and if I could I think I would die of boredom waiting to present this problem. I don't understand the "vigilante" label though-- is there something not legit about a group of citizens forming a task force to try to solve a problem?

iggi said:

would we present ourselves at the council as a 'vigilante' group or just bring our findings to their attention? do you think we would be telling them something they dont already know, or is it more to say that WE know, too?
H3N3 said:

Will go through and summarize for Saturday later in the week.

A suggestion from a well respected bike advocate in regard specifically to Swap-O-Rama-- attend a Mayor's Bicycle Advisory Council meeting and bring it to the city's attention.

Thoughts?

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on June 10, 2010 at 8:56pm

Copy of message sent to group (in case of another NING error-- grrrrr)

Apologies if this is a second message- the previous attempt to send only returned a NING error.

Listing:
http://www.thechainlink.org/events/swaporama-iii-the-rapture

Please let me know if you'll be there if you haven't already-- ideally I would have everyone's phone number but barring that please call me Sat. AM to let me know you're coming.

I haven't been able to get a response from Ron about a north side meetup/ride time yet; let's plan to meet at the McDonald's at 43rd/Ashland by 8:15. There was an idea to have it serve as a 'base' but no-one has specifically volunteered to bring a laptop as of yet. Also if anyone can be available to search at home please speak up.

Thanks,
Howard
773/710-4143

Permalink Reply by Vilda on June 10, 2010 at 10:19pm

vig·i·lan·te
1. One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands.
2. A member of a vigilance committee.

It is a group of vigilantes and there is nothing wrong with that. ;-)

Good luck tomorrow and hope to see everyone at naked ride to get a full report! ;-)

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