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Bobby Cann Updates: Ryne San Hamel Pleads Guilty, Receives 10 Days in Jail

Jason Jenkins at ActiveTrans is helping to coordinate community response.  If there is any chance you can attend proceedings, please reach out to him: 

jason@activetrans.org.

 

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Hello all,

Barring any noteworthy developments, I'll no longer be posting updates in this thread. All courtroom advocates and consistently concerned parties receive regular updates via email. Anyone else who is interested in receiving an update may be added to an email list to which I post regular updates. Simply send me your email to jason@activetrans.org. Feel free to continue to post information here that you obtain from the automated system.

Jason Jenkins

Crash Support Programs

Active Trans

Bob and anyone else -- post any and all things, I can just ignore what I don't want to read about, but I hope this can still be a place we might be able to get information and keep this alive.  Huge thanks to Jason Jenkins.  DO NOT LET THIS CAUSE DIE.  


Bob Kastigar said:

If you don't want to listen to the "whining" there are instructions on the bottom of the email to let you unsubscribe to the discussion.

I thought this was the place for "Bobby Cann Courtroom Updates"; at least that's what the subject line indicates.  If someone else is actually doing something but not informing the rest of us what they're doing they should let us know they're not going to continue posting.

Unsubscribe, don't listen to us whine.  We're just looking for input from someone who's involved.  Apparently you aren't, because you haven't posted anything useful or informative. I did post the information I got from the phone call I made.



h' 1.0 said:

If that's what you think needs to happen, than just do it rather than make the rest of us listen to you whine about what you think someone else should be doing that you (erroneously) think they're not.
 

For God's sake, there is a team working to make sure justice is served, and there have been repeated open invitations to connect with that--- the implication that the decision not to maintain various discussions about it on various sites means nobody cares or that the cause is DYING is just disgusting.

Armchair quarterbacking at its ugliest.


 
Bill Nedza said:

Bob and anyone else -- post any and all things, I can just ignore what I don't want to read about, but I hope this can still be a place we might be able to get information and keep this alive.  Huge thanks to Jason Jenkins.  DO NOT LET THIS CAUSE DIE.  


Bob Kastigar said:

If you don't want to listen to the "whining" there are instructions on the bottom of the email to let you unsubscribe to the discussion.

I thought this was the place for "Bobby Cann Courtroom Updates"; at least that's what the subject line indicates.  If someone else is actually doing something but not informing the rest of us what they're doing they should let us know they're not going to continue posting.

Unsubscribe, don't listen to us whine.  We're just looking for input from someone who's involved.  Apparently you aren't, because you haven't posted anything useful or informative. I did post the information I got from the phone call I made.



h' 1.0 said:

If that's what you think needs to happen, than just do it rather than make the rest of us listen to you whine about what you think someone else should be doing that you (erroneously) think they're not.
 

h' 1.0 said:

For God's sake, there is a team working to make sure justice is served, and there have been repeated open invitations to connect with that--- the implication that the decision not to maintain various discussions about it on various sites means nobody cares or that the cause is DYING is just disgusting.

Armchair quarterbacking at its ugliest.

Nobody is armchair-quarterbacking - we're just looking for honest open discussion and fact reporting.

Not everybody wants to join the small elite group of silent participants who have been requested, for some unknown reason, to remain silent and refrain from public discussion.  This is how democracy works: free speech and an open and frank discussion.  If nobody continues to discuss and monitor the ongoing court appearances then it appears as if the interest is dying - and it isn't.  It's just being limited to the selected few who want to participate.

If you don't want to adhere to the "Code of Silence" then don't join that group or join the team.  Remain here for the free, frank and open discussion.

If Jason no longer wants to update this open forum for reporting and discussion he's free to make that choice.  There are no requirements here to remain or even to take part or even to read.  You can always unsubscribe if you think this discussion is inappropriate.

The question about Sanhamel ever getting his car back has never been answered.  I'm sure this came up in court but was never reported.  If there's been no change than somebody - anybody - should report "No Change" to the public outsiders who still have an interest.

Well, I gotta say.... Somebody's a useless jerk, and Anybody should be ashamed of himself for falling down on the job like this. Dissappointing.
 
Bob Kastigar said:

h' 1.0 said:

For God's sake, there is a team working to make sure justice is served, and there have been repeated open invitations to connect with that--- the implication that the decision not to maintain various discussions about it on various sites means nobody cares or that the cause is DYING is just disgusting.

Armchair quarterbacking at its ugliest.

Nobody is armchair-quarterbacking - we're just looking for honest open discussion and fact reporting.

Not everybody wants to join the small elite group of silent participants who have been requested, for some unknown reason, to remain silent and refrain from public discussion.  This is how democracy works: free speech and an open and frank discussion.  If nobody continues to discuss and monitor the ongoing court appearances then it appears as if the interest is dying - and it isn't.  It's just being limited to the selected few who want to participate.

If you don't want to adhere to the "Code of Silence" then don't join that group or join the team.  Remain here for the free, frank and open discussion.

If Jason no longer wants to update this open forum for reporting and discussion he's free to make that choice.  There are no requirements here to remain or even to take part or even to read.  You can always unsubscribe if you think this discussion is inappropriate.

The question about Sanhamel ever getting his car back has never been answered.  I'm sure this came up in court but was never reported.  If there's been no change than somebody - anybody - should report "No Change" to the public outsiders who still have an interest.

I too would like to hear what is going on. I think Bob is doing a noble service by asking for updates.

Two comments:

1. the reason behind the request is well communicated in this thread. Don't continue to pretend otherwise.

2. If you are truly that curious about the case, why don't you attend and report back to us all? The hearings are open to the public. 

Bob Kastigar said:

Not everybody wants to join the small elite group of silent participants who have been requested, for some unknown reason, to remain silent and refrain from public discussion.  

Thanks, Duppie, very well said. I am now unfollowing this otherwise frustrating "discussion."


Duppie said:

Two comments:

1. the reason behind the request is well communicated in this thread. Don't continue to pretend otherwise.

2. If you are truly that curious about the case, why don't you attend and report back to us all? The hearings are open to the public. 

Bob Kastigar said:

Not everybody wants to join the small elite group of silent participants who have been requested, for some unknown reason, to remain silent and refrain from public discussion.  

Part of me hates that I'm even giving Bob's rants a response but...

I didn't know Bobby, but I don't think he'd like what this thread has turned into.  Stop trying to stir the pot.  The outcome of this trial will not change if you get more frequent updates.

Don't assume that people are no longer interested just because we're not posting immature replies.  I am still very interested and unable to attend the hearings, but I'm patient and trying to respect this entire process.

Thanks for letting us know.

Active Transportation Alliance said:

Hello all,

Barring any noteworthy developments, I'll no longer be posting updates in this thread. All courtroom advocates and consistently concerned parties receive regular updates via email. Anyone else who is interested in receiving an update may be added to an email list to which I post regular updates. Simply send me your email to jason@activetrans.org. Feel free to continue to post information here that you obtain from the automated system.

Jason Jenkins

Crash Support Programs

Active Trans

1. Has a trial date been set?

2. Where is the courthouse? 26th and Cal?

3. What courtroom Number?

4. When is the next court date?

This is the strangest thread ever. We are asked to go to court when we can but are not told: 1) when; 2) where, etc.

Can we somehow pin to the front of this the next court date, court room and what courthouse it's in so people who care can easily show up?

I, too, am about to unfollow this thread.  However, Tominator, all of the questions you ask have been answered within the last two pages except for the trial date.  If one wants to criticize, one should at least read what one is criticizing.  As annoyed as people have been with Bob Kastigar, no one can accuse him of not reading this thread.

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