Why everyone hates bicyclists—and why they hate everyone back (Today's Crains Chicago Business) - The Chainlink2024-03-29T13:53:01Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?feed=yes&xn_auth=noMr. Reilly says the city has…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7730752013-11-14T18:37:35.979ZGort 12-mile Pinklegneephttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PeenwormGrubologist
<blockquote><p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></br><span>Mr. Reilly says the city has a challenge in striking a balance between “educating the public and ticketing the public. I get complaints from both sides of the equation: <strong>motorists complaining that bicyclists are getting away with murder</strong>, and those in the bicycle community saying, 'Why on earth are police pulling me over?' “</span></p>
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<p>It's funny because motorists literally get away with making…</p>
<blockquote><p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><span>Mr. Reilly says the city has a challenge in striking a balance between “educating the public and ticketing the public. I get complaints from both sides of the equation: <strong>motorists complaining that bicyclists are getting away with murder</strong>, and those in the bicycle community saying, 'Why on earth are police pulling me over?' “</span></p>
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<p>It's funny because motorists literally get away with making cyclists become dead bodies. </p> But that's always been the ca…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7729792013-11-14T18:31:04.021ZShttps://thechainlink.org/profile/s2485df
<p>But that's always been the case whether it's the red scare of the 50s and 60s or the yellow journalism that helped to get the spanish-american war started or other events before. The only difference is that media nowadays may be slightly less biased but also pretend to be fair, neutral sources of information.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Michelle said:…</cite></p>
<p>But that's always been the case whether it's the red scare of the 50s and 60s or the yellow journalism that helped to get the spanish-american war started or other events before. The only difference is that media nowadays may be slightly less biased but also pretend to be fair, neutral sources of information.<br/> <br/> <cite>Michelle said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772891&x=1#2211490Comment772856"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I think the media choses what to hype up though - for example, it seems that they're having great fun fanning the flames of the bike/car controversy... when it really shouldn't be a controversy besides "how do we make it safer for everyone?" <br/> <br/> <cite>S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772975&x=1#2211490Comment772975"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I disagree. Between the full blown partisan papers that have existed for most of american history and the yellow journalism, I'd say that the media has been pretty biased until the 50s/60s. But even the neutral reporting thing of the 60s and on has been due in large part to a homogenous society.<br/> <br/> <cite>Dan Korn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772569&x=1#2211490Comment772569"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>But the media has gotten worse. The "news" is much more sensationalistic now.<br/><br/></p>
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</blockquote> "The change is especially wre…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7728912013-11-14T18:16:41.945Zleftoverbaconhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/leftoverbacon
<p>"The change is especially wrenching because Chicago, like most cities, is built for the car"</p>
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<p>Draw a box. Wilmette on the North, Blue Island on the South, Pulaski Rd. (Crawford Ave) on the West, and Hammond, IN on the East. All of that was built out prior to the mass adoption of the automobile.</p>
<p>"The change is especially wrenching because Chicago, like most cities, is built for the car"</p>
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<p>Draw a box. Wilmette on the North, Blue Island on the South, Pulaski Rd. (Crawford Ave) on the West, and Hammond, IN on the East. All of that was built out prior to the mass adoption of the automobile.</p> I think the media choses what…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7728562013-11-14T17:25:43.740ZMichellehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Michelle770
<p>I think the media choses what to hype up though - for example, it seems that they're having great fun fanning the flames of the bike/car controversy... when it really shouldn't be a controversy besides "how do we make it safer for everyone?" <br></br> <br></br> <cite>S said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I think the media choses what to hype up though - for example, it seems that they're having great fun fanning the flames of the bike/car controversy... when it really shouldn't be a controversy besides "how do we make it safer for everyone?" <br/> <br/> <cite>S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772975&x=1#2211490Comment772975"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I disagree. Between the full blown partisan papers that have existed for most of american history and the yellow journalism, I'd say that the media has been pretty biased until the 50s/60s. But even the neutral reporting thing of the 60s and on has been due in large part to a homogenous society.<br/> <br/> <cite>Dan Korn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772569&x=1#2211490Comment772569"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>But the media has gotten worse. The "news" is much more sensationalistic now.<br/><br/></p>
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</blockquote> I disagree. Between the full…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7729752013-11-14T17:20:58.829ZShttps://thechainlink.org/profile/s2485df
<p>I disagree. Between the full blown partisan papers that have existed for most of american history and the yellow journalism, I'd say that the media has been pretty biased until the 50s/60s. But even the neutral reporting thing of the 60s and on has been due in large part to a homogenous society.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Dan Korn said:…</cite></p>
<p>I disagree. Between the full blown partisan papers that have existed for most of american history and the yellow journalism, I'd say that the media has been pretty biased until the 50s/60s. But even the neutral reporting thing of the 60s and on has been due in large part to a homogenous society.<br/> <br/> <cite>Dan Korn said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772569&x=1#2211490Comment772569"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>But the media has gotten worse. The "news" is much more sensationalistic now.<br/><br/></p>
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</blockquote> But the media has gotten wors…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7725692013-11-14T15:32:12.366ZDan Kornhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DanKorn
<p>But the media has gotten worse. The "news" is much more sensationalistic now.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Anne Alt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772568&x=1#2211490Comment772568"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I agree. While there's still plenty of room for improvement, overall conditions for cycling are MUCH easier than in the…</p>
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<p>But the media has gotten worse. The "news" is much more sensationalistic now.<br/> <br/> <cite>Anne Alt said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A772568&x=1#2211490Comment772568"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I agree. While there's still plenty of room for improvement, overall conditions for cycling are MUCH easier than in the 80s.<br/><br/><em>I think it has gotten way easier to bike in Chicago since I started riding here.</em></p>
<p><em>Drivers are much more aware and roads are way better than they were in the late 80s.</em></p>
<p><em>It will get even better.</em></p>
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</blockquote> I agree. While there's still…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7725682013-11-14T15:04:34.833ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>I agree. While there's still plenty of room for improvement, overall conditions for cycling are MUCH easier than in the 80s.<br/><br/><em>I think it has gotten way easier to bike in Chicago since I started riding here.</em></p>
<p><em>Drivers are much more aware and roads are way better than they were in the late 80s.</em></p>
<p><em>It will get even better.</em></p>
<p>I agree. While there's still plenty of room for improvement, overall conditions for cycling are MUCH easier than in the 80s.<br/><br/><em>I think it has gotten way easier to bike in Chicago since I started riding here.</em></p>
<p><em>Drivers are much more aware and roads are way better than they were in the late 80s.</em></p>
<p><em>It will get even better.</em></p> I had more fun replying to th…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-14:2211490:Comment:7727402013-11-14T08:14:50.421ZDan Kornhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DanKorn
<p>I had more fun replying to the comments. YMMV.<br/> <br/> <cite>Rich S said:</cite></p>
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<p>I had more fun replying to the comments. YMMV.<br/> <br/> <cite>Rich S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/why-everyone-hates-bicyclists-and-why-they-hate-everyone-back-tod#2211490Comment772297"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I started reading the comments and stopped when I felt my blood pressure rising. Only took about 5 or 6. </p>
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</blockquote> Well, the last coal yard on t…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-13:2211490:Comment:7728082013-11-13T23:15:11.693ZTricolorhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Tricolor
<p>Well, the last coal yard on the north side closed in the early 70s and I don't think any buildings are running fuel oil anymore, either.</p>
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<p>Berwyn station in the 40s. Looking east at the Edgewater Beach Hotel. The coal yard is now a Jewel and was the last freight customer for the CTA.</p>
<p>Well, the last coal yard on the north side closed in the early 70s and I don't think any buildings are running fuel oil anymore, either.</p>
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<p>Berwyn station in the 40s. Looking east at the Edgewater Beach Hotel. The coal yard is now a Jewel and was the last freight customer for the CTA.</p> The industrial revolution's f…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-11-13:2211490:Comment:7728012013-11-13T22:05:42.114ZJuan 2-3 or more mi.https://thechainlink.org/profile/JohnDominguez
<p>The industrial revolution's filth is catching up to us in the form of hurricanes, typhoons...</p>
<p>So glad to live in a city with people trying to live sustainably, even if it takes some growing pains. It will be well worth it, and I hope to see it accomplished in my lifetime.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tricolor said:…</cite></p>
<p>The industrial revolution's filth is catching up to us in the form of hurricanes, typhoons...</p>
<p>So glad to live in a city with people trying to live sustainably, even if it takes some growing pains. It will be well worth it, and I hope to see it accomplished in my lifetime.<br/> <br/> <cite>Tricolor said:</cite></p>
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