What Do You Think? "When Is an Electric Mountain Bike No Longer a Bicycle?" - The Chainlink2024-03-29T05:36:12Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/what-do-you-think-when-is-an-electric-mountain-bike-no-longer-a-b?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm ok with pedelec e-bikes b…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-03-09:2211490:Comment:10911302018-03-09T20:06:56.894ZTodd Quennevillehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TQuenneville
<p>I'm ok with pedelec e-bikes because you still have to pedal them to move. I think throttled e-bikes need to be re-evaluated to be classified as a scooter since there is little to no human input to stay moving. Having said that; I own a pedelec bike for my commute, and I am aware of my surroundings and courteous of other cyclists around me. We all need to be able to ride together! </p>
<p>I'm ok with pedelec e-bikes because you still have to pedal them to move. I think throttled e-bikes need to be re-evaluated to be classified as a scooter since there is little to no human input to stay moving. Having said that; I own a pedelec bike for my commute, and I am aware of my surroundings and courteous of other cyclists around me. We all need to be able to ride together! </p> It would be interesting to se…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-23:2211490:Comment:10898662018-02-23T21:50:30.492ZBrian Shttps://thechainlink.org/profile/BrianS
<p>It would be interesting to see what the general cyclist's opinion would be if a law went into effect that no bicycle could be ridden faster than X mph. Let's say X is 15 mph.<br></br><br></br>I think the general reaction would be that one size does not fit all on cyclist speed.<br></br><br></br>So why would the same group of cyclists say "Ban all e-bikes, cuz they go fast!"<br></br><br></br>Most e-bikes generally don't go any faster than any regular cyclist can go. They're just able to do it for a longer period of…</p>
<p>It would be interesting to see what the general cyclist's opinion would be if a law went into effect that no bicycle could be ridden faster than X mph. Let's say X is 15 mph.<br/><br/>I think the general reaction would be that one size does not fit all on cyclist speed.<br/><br/>So why would the same group of cyclists say "Ban all e-bikes, cuz they go fast!"<br/><br/>Most e-bikes generally don't go any faster than any regular cyclist can go. They're just able to do it for a longer period of time.<br/><br/>But then you have those hotrods in the article that are motorcycles with pedals, essentially. They go well beyond the power level of even the best human rider. There are laws that determine what is a "motor vehicle". Those hotrods are well into that category, and as such, have no place on regular trails.</p> I think the line is crossed w…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-23:2211490:Comment:10898892018-02-23T14:52:00.007ZJeff Blumenthalhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JeffB
<p>I think the line is crossed when you don't need to pedal at all and when speeds exceed 20 mph. The idea of an assist is very attractive to me at age 78. I want the exercise as well as the ability to keep up with my younger bicycle riding friends with help on the hills and longer cruising range.</p>
<p>I think the line is crossed when you don't need to pedal at all and when speeds exceed 20 mph. The idea of an assist is very attractive to me at age 78. I want the exercise as well as the ability to keep up with my younger bicycle riding friends with help on the hills and longer cruising range.</p> That and (I think) by law the…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-19:2211490:Comment:10890562018-02-19T04:24:42.517ZDouglas Pricehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DouglasPrice
<p>That and (I think) by law the electric assist has to stop assisting at 20mph. I have no problem sharing a bike lane with something that meets those criteria. </p>
<p>That and (I think) by law the electric assist has to stop assisting at 20mph. I have no problem sharing a bike lane with something that meets those criteria. </p> There's definitely a place fo…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-18:2211490:Comment:10889522018-02-18T18:59:40.599ZYasmeenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/YasmeenSchuller
<p>There's definitely a place for eBikes. I was on the "hater" side until I saw the benefits - great for people that want to bike with their partner but have medical challenges, great for steep hills and/or long commutes, and if you mountain bike, that's one way to do a lot more riding (those climbs can be killer!). I have nothing but good thoughts for them. That said, it would be nice to classify based on speed because we don't want a moped on a bike trail. No?</p>
<p>There's definitely a place for eBikes. I was on the "hater" side until I saw the benefits - great for people that want to bike with their partner but have medical challenges, great for steep hills and/or long commutes, and if you mountain bike, that's one way to do a lot more riding (those climbs can be killer!). I have nothing but good thoughts for them. That said, it would be nice to classify based on speed because we don't want a moped on a bike trail. No?</p> "When is an electric MOUNTAIN…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-18:2211490:Comment:10890482018-02-18T18:50:46.774ZTom A.K.https://thechainlink.org/profile/TomKrystyn
<p>"When is an electric MOUNTAIN BIKE no longer a bicycle?"</p>
<p>The E-Mountain Bike featured in this discussion is obviously an extreme example of an over-powered, $10,000+ 'E-Mountain Motorbike' that even the article says that will mostly be a toy of the wealthy on their private property and other locations. Especially when directions are included to illegally override the features intended to keep it classified as an E- mountain bike by the evil nature of the usual disfuctional excuses for…</p>
<p>"When is an electric MOUNTAIN BIKE no longer a bicycle?"</p>
<p>The E-Mountain Bike featured in this discussion is obviously an extreme example of an over-powered, $10,000+ 'E-Mountain Motorbike' that even the article says that will mostly be a toy of the wealthy on their private property and other locations. Especially when directions are included to illegally override the features intended to keep it classified as an E- mountain bike by the evil nature of the usual disfuctional excuses for human beings.</p>
<p>Yup, this discussion has once again brought out the usual reaction from cyclists that can't or won't comprehend the proper, appropriate, reasonable and useful type of E-Bike. Of course, with any type of mode of transport it depends on the actions of the operator and not the device.</p>
<p>I may soon be seeing you somewhere down the road on mine. Don't be (hatin') angry at me. <br/> (My future E-Bike example)<br/> <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35277913?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35277913?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> So a "push a button and go 30…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-18:2211490:Comment:10891082018-02-18T17:03:33.209ZV Whttps://thechainlink.org/profile/vincentwaller
<p>So a "push a button and go 30mph" scooter is no different to you than a pedal assist one that requires pedaling to go, and goes about 15mph?</p>
<p>So a "push a button and go 30mph" scooter is no different to you than a pedal assist one that requires pedaling to go, and goes about 15mph?</p> Why do you have a problem wit…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-18:2211490:Comment:10889472018-02-18T16:57:36.207ZTonyPhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TonyP
<p>Why do you have a problem with folks using a bell instead of "on your left"?</p>
<p>Why do you have a problem with folks using a bell instead of "on your left"?</p> This is the one from the link…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-18:2211490:Comment:10889282018-02-18T03:32:32.352ZTonyPhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TonyP
<p>This is the one from the link in the OP, what does it look like to you?</p>
<p></p>
<p><img class=" lazyloaded" alt="HPC-Review-1" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/img_600x400/public/2018/02/12/hpc-review-1.jpg?itok=RyG4Z9gS"/></p>
<p>This is the one from the link in the OP, what does it look like to you?</p>
<p></p>
<p><img class=" lazyloaded" alt="HPC-Review-1" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/img_600x400/public/2018/02/12/hpc-review-1.jpg?itok=RyG4Z9gS"/></p> Anything that can move by its…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-02-18:2211490:Comment:10890312018-02-18T02:09:18.743ZJim Rehohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JimReho
<p>Anything that can move by itself, without being pedaled, is not an electric bicycle. </p>
<p>Anything that can move by itself, without being pedaled, is not an electric bicycle. </p>