Those orange bikes locked to the racks in Wicker Park are advertisements - The Chainlink2024-03-28T09:17:30Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/those-orange-bikes-locked-to-the-racks-in-wicker-park-are?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A899246&feed=yes&xn_auth=noA good alderman should be abl…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-03-26:2211490:Comment:8996252015-03-26T15:12:26.898ZDuppiehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Duppie
A good alderman should be able to take care of it quickly.<br />
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<a href="http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150318/edgewater/those-orange-bikes-around-edgewater-have-got-go-alderman-says" target="_blank">http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150318/edgewater/those-orange-bikes-around-edgewater-have-got-go-alderman-says</a>
A good alderman should be able to take care of it quickly.<br />
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<a href="http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150318/edgewater/those-orange-bikes-around-edgewater-have-got-go-alderman-says" target="_blank">http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150318/edgewater/those-orange-bikes-around-edgewater-have-got-go-alderman-says</a> They did this in Evanston abo…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-03-26:2211490:Comment:8995852015-03-26T14:22:18.232ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>They did this in Evanston about a year or so ago.</p>
<p>They did this in Evanston about a year or so ago.</p> Now, now, now. We are law abi…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-03-26:2211490:Comment:8993752015-03-26T03:38:20.429ZTom A.K.https://thechainlink.org/profile/TomKrystyn
Now, now, now. We are law abiding Chainlinkers here. Where's what's his name?
Now, now, now. We are law abiding Chainlinkers here. Where's what's his name? And chain them across the fro…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-03-26:2211490:Comment:8992462015-03-26T02:55:09.098ZMike Schwabhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MikeSchwab80
<p>And chain them across the front door of the location setting them out?</p>
<p>And chain them across the front door of the location setting them out?</p> How can have them removed? Ma…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-03-26:2211490:Comment:8992432015-03-26T02:24:20.232ZWaymond Smithhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/WaymondSmith
<p>How can have them removed? Maybe a night time project?</p>
<p>How can have them removed? Maybe a night time project?</p> Attaching advertisements to p…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-01-28:2211490:Comment:8838662015-01-28T21:37:35.103Zburdenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/burden
<p>Attaching advertisements to public fixtures, like bike racks, is unambiguously illegal.</p>
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<p>See, for example, here: <a href="http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/title10s...$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:chicago_il$anc=JD_10-8-320" target="_blank">10-8-320 Posting bills.</a></p>
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<p>Attaching advertisements to public fixtures, like bike racks, is unambiguously illegal.</p>
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<p>See, for example, here: <a href="http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/title10s...$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:chicago_il$anc=JD_10-8-320" target="_blank">10-8-320 Posting bills.</a></p>
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<p>And here: <a href="http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/title10s...$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:chicago_il$anc=JD_10-28-064" target="_blank">10-28-064 Advertising signs.</a></p>
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<p>(Or, if you still think these are bikes, and bearing in mind that the gym originally planned to leave these things in place for <em>several months,</em> here: <a href="http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/title9ve...$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:chicago_il$anc=JD_9-52-071" target="_blank">9-52-071 Abandonded bicycles.</a>)</p>
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<p>If these signs, these promotional gimmicks, weren’t bike-shaped — imagine they were old bed frames or hubcaps or garbage bags filled with half-eaten cheeseburgers or something — would we be having this kind of conversation? It seems to me the obligation here is on those who would argue that “theft” of <em>non-bike trash left locked to bike racks</em> is of any particular ethical concern.</p>
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<p>That is, while I appreciate the desire to be conciliatory, I'm unconvinced that there's anything wrong with helping to keep the shared stuff we use every day clean and accessible, whether it's clearing out snow or picking up garbage or removing advertising placed in apparent bad faith by disrespectful and/or ignorant marketeers. That there’s some legitimate business involved lends no legitimacy to the deliberate creation of a public nuisance, to vandalism, to littering, to the obstruction of a public good. Never mind the attempt to gain profit via the (prohibited) exploitation of city infrastructure for low-cost advertising. </p>
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<p>Some kind of respectful petition drive or whatever may be one possible “high road,” and I'd never tell you not to take that approach. But quietly solving the problem ourselves, should it reoccur, is not the low road. I’m not advocating anything particularly dramatic.</p>
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<p></p> I completely agree with David…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-01-28:2211490:Comment:8838622015-01-28T20:42:19.835Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>I completely agree with David B and Yasmeen that removing the bikes unilaterally would only have been a reasonable approach if going through "proper" channels hadn't produced any results.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>David Barish said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/those-orange-bikes-locked-to-the-racks-in-wicker-park-are?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A883972&x=1#2211490Comment883972"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>As amusing as it would have…</p>
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<p>I completely agree with David B and Yasmeen that removing the bikes unilaterally would only have been a reasonable approach if going through "proper" channels hadn't produced any results.<br/> <br/> <cite>David Barish said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/those-orange-bikes-locked-to-the-racks-in-wicker-park-are?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A883972&x=1#2211490Comment883972"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>As amusing as it would have been to unilaterally remove the bikes Yasmeen's course of contacting Orange Therapy makes more sense. We educate rather than alienate a gym. Gyms are usually friendly to cyclists. Maybe that will come to roost at some future time when a cyclist or cyclists are looking for a sponsor, donor or advertiser. They screwed up and the community pointed that out. The bikes are removed. There is a place to park and all is kismet in the city of Wild Onions. </p>
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</blockquote> As amusing as it would have b…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-01-28:2211490:Comment:8839722015-01-28T20:27:06.366ZDavid Barishhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidBarish
<p>As amusing as it would have been to unilaterally remove the bikes Yasmeen's course of contacting Orange Therapy makes more sense. We educate rather than alienate a gym. Gyms are usually friendly to cyclists. Maybe that will come to roost at some future time when a cyclist or cyclists are looking for a sponsor, donor or advertiser. They screwed up and the community pointed that out. The bikes are removed. There is a place to park and all is kismet in the city of Wild Onions. </p>
<p>As amusing as it would have been to unilaterally remove the bikes Yasmeen's course of contacting Orange Therapy makes more sense. We educate rather than alienate a gym. Gyms are usually friendly to cyclists. Maybe that will come to roost at some future time when a cyclist or cyclists are looking for a sponsor, donor or advertiser. They screwed up and the community pointed that out. The bikes are removed. There is a place to park and all is kismet in the city of Wild Onions. </p> Ran out of time but I found p…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-01-28:2211490:Comment:8838562015-01-28T19:02:06.550Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>Ran out of time but I found plenty to support that this gym is conducting an illegal advertising campaign, including: <a href="http://chicagocode.org/10-8-325/">http://chicagocode.org/10-8-325/</a></p>
<p>Ran out of time but I found plenty to support that this gym is conducting an illegal advertising campaign, including: <a href="http://chicagocode.org/10-8-325/">http://chicagocode.org/10-8-325/</a></p> Are you sure about that? Yas…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-01-28:2211490:Comment:8836652015-01-28T18:50:47.414Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>Are you sure about that?<br/> <br/> <cite>Yasmeen said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/those-orange-bikes-locked-to-the-racks-in-wicker-park-are?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A883342&x=1#2211490Comment883406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If this was a car that had parked on a street and was covered in ads for a local pizza place, that would not be illegal.</p>
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<p>Are you sure about that?<br/> <br/> <cite>Yasmeen said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/those-orange-bikes-locked-to-the-racks-in-wicker-park-are?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A883342&x=1#2211490Comment883406"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>If this was a car that had parked on a street and was covered in ads for a local pizza place, that would not be illegal.</p>
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