"A cycle route is judged based on its weakest point and people will not get out of their cars and onto their bikes if they do not feel that they have a safe route to follow … Instead, the quality of the route is often sacrificed to minimize the perceived impact on car users. This results in the route being unattractive to potential new users and therefore not likely to generate modal shift.”
agree to always disagree with you on this topic. I am pro-protected bike lanes with concrete dividers. As drivers become more and more distracted with phones, other devices, alcohol, etc. I don't want them anywhere near the bike lanes I ride in. This idea of "freedom" from bike lanes you are always arguing for? I argue that just for a few people (I've really only heard men say it) arguing against bike lanes, it's not worth losing lives and alienating the other 99% of the bike riding population. We want adequate protection. No amount of grumpy will get me to believe you are better off without bike lanes. Montrose is a terrible street to ride on. Why? No bike lanes and biking discouraged. Just rode on it last week and had multiple drivers on phones weaving very close to me, not paying attention. Where are our safe accommodations? Pedestrians and cyclists deserve better than that.
You assume I don't ride effectively and that's what makes it more dangerous. I couldn't disagree more. It's not about me. It's not about me wearing reflective clothing, changing my riding behavior, not being "meek". This wrong-mindedness is why drivers get light sentences. You fall into the trap of calling them "cars" "SUVs" "buses" and NOT drivers. Yes, there is shared responsibility BUT there's only so much a cyclist can do to protect ourselves. We are ultimately sitting ducks if there's nothing between us and the drunk or smartphone distracted driver. Someone pretty awesome died in DC who could not have been less meek, could not have been a better cyclist and he was killed by a driver speeding on a street that had no safe accommodations. The world has a big gaping hole where he left us. He left a daughter and spouse behind. I will always argue for protected bike lanes. And not those stupid plastic things, proper concrete. I've been on those PBLs and it's the most enjoyable ride I've ever had. Stress is overrated. I am not meek but I am also not invincible. Taking an all-caps from you... PROTECTED BIKE LANES FOREVER. EVERYONE DESERVES SAFE ACCOMMODATIONS.
I 100% agree with you Yasmeen. We have this false equivalency that as bikers we can only ride in PBL's or on the street. We accommodate drivers of different levels and therefore should do the same for bikes. But let me throw this out there for you: I believe that people are afraid to bike because they are also afraid to drive. I spent 10 years talking to cyclists and motorists and THEY ARE ALL SCARED. How many times did I hear a driver say "I'm afraid of what would happen if there were bikes aroun? A LOT. It's great that people are concerned, but they don't see that they are the cause of the fear. I believe the need for multi-modal travel is self-evident and so simple that people don't believe it.
Interesting. That sounds a lot like articles I've read about the younger population not wanting to drive because it's too much responsibility so they prefer public transportation or bikes to cars.
I've read that and experienced that too, but the refrain of fear was from every age.
It's a huge responsibility and it's become more dangerous.
SUVs are getting bigger and more people are driving these large vehicles with huge blind spots. Studies show that driving around in an SUV can make drivers less connected to their surroundings. Less aware. Now add in distractions. Now add marketing that tells people they will be more safe in a large SUV. The auto industry is and has been pretty terrible.
On the flip side, as the article mentions, so many people are going 1-2 miles in a car because they don't feel they can get their safely on a bike. If we had safe accommodations, more people would likely be inclined to choose a bike. Less cars on the roads.
"So do you want to eliminate miles of street parking on Montrose, in order to pour concrete walls, and build protected bike lanes for you, and your meek friends? Really?"
Too much emphasis on the importance of parking imo. Why does parking get prioritized above the safety of cyclists?
Like it or not drivers outnumber cyclists, and until that changes parking will keep its importance.
Yes, cycling should be accessible to everyone, *even* those "meek" people who are not so brave as you are. You and your manly cohort are, as always, free to brawl it out with cars and their drivers if you like. The rest of us will keep working to keep changing reality rather than accepting the shortcomings that currently exist, and make cycling accessible to as many people as possible. Especially the "meek".
well said. Thank you.
I think the concept that a bike route is as good as it's weakest link still holds but what is a weak link is subjective. In general a route that has a portion on a street such as Ashland or Western or any other fast street with no place at all for cyclists is very weak. I once saw Randy Neufeld riding on Dempster St. in Skokie and asked him about it. He was riding only one block to a store on Dempster very aware of his choice. It is not a place for bikes but he had his eyes open and the skill to deal with his choice. I know a very experienced cyclist who is never happy on roads and always prefers trails. I know lots of suburban riders who feel a sense of claustrophobia when on a lane in the city where they are still vulnerable to car doors. We all have our comfort levels. We all have our issues. I am pretty comfortable on most streets without regard to lanes, Yasmeen, an urban warrior, as she wrote, feels differently and prefers a bike lane especially in the age of distraction. Either way, the more we plan for cyclists and the more we plan roads and routes for the average cyclist and not for me or Yasmeen or CLP the more we get citizen riders out there and the more we get people to shift modes from cars to bikes. Most of us who read this forum are easy. Give us a good road without too many potholes and with 3 feet of clearance in the city and we are good. Until we are designing roads and lanes, urban and suburban areas that will be good for a middle school kid or for our less bike savvy friends we are going to have too many motorized trips. When bikes become more of a norm the drivers will be less impatient as they will know it is simply going to take them more time as the world is no longer revolving around them. I can dream...so I will keep my eyes open for now as drivers seem to be playing a video game and scoring points each time one of us hits the pavement.