There's only one indoor velodrome in the country – do you know where it is? - The Chainlink2024-03-28T23:18:02Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/there-s-only-one-indoor-velodrome-in-the-country-do-you-know?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A494312&feed=yes&xn_auth=noy'all need to lighten up!tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-20:2211490:Comment:4946332011-12-20T02:15:51.561ZKevin Mulckyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KevinMulcky
<p>y'all need to lighten up!</p>
<p>y'all need to lighten up!</p> Absolutely no-one suggested t…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-20:2211490:Comment:4947342011-12-20T01:07:58.814Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>Absolutely no-one suggested they were not interested in supporting you in this work.</p>
<p>Simply asking that you think about how your messaging may be undermining the work of others in the Chicago bike advocacy community.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Chicago Velo Campus said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Absolutely no-one suggested they were not interested in supporting you in this work.</p>
<p>Simply asking that you think about how your messaging may be undermining the work of others in the Chicago bike advocacy community.<br/> <br/> <cite>Chicago Velo Campus said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/there-s-only-one-indoor-velodrome-in-the-country-do-you-know?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A494625&x=1#2211490Comment494625"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Thanks guys for your comments and thoughts. Our post was meant to create a FUN discussion about a new kind of cycling opportunity in the city of Chicago. For sure people in Chicago cycle all winter outside (we see it and do it ourselves), what we are creating is an indoor space where people can ride fast, race, train and have fun year round – it’s a different cycling experience. Whether or not people choose to support us and our work is their individual choice, but we hope that those in the cycling community will try to understand our mission and efforts.</p>
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</blockquote> Thanks guys for your comments…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4946252011-12-19T23:32:14.892ZChicago Velo Campushttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ChicagoVeloCampus
<p>Thanks guys for your comments and thoughts. Our post was meant to create a FUN discussion about a new kind of cycling opportunity in the city of Chicago. For sure people in Chicago cycle all winter outside (we see it and do it ourselves), what we are creating is an indoor space where people can ride fast, race, train and have fun year round – it’s a different cycling experience. Whether or not people choose to support us and our work is their individual choice, but we hope that those in…</p>
<p>Thanks guys for your comments and thoughts. Our post was meant to create a FUN discussion about a new kind of cycling opportunity in the city of Chicago. For sure people in Chicago cycle all winter outside (we see it and do it ourselves), what we are creating is an indoor space where people can ride fast, race, train and have fun year round – it’s a different cycling experience. Whether or not people choose to support us and our work is their individual choice, but we hope that those in the cycling community will try to understand our mission and efforts.</p> Sorry, Melanie. I certainly w…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4946232011-12-19T22:51:26.317ZKevin C Dormanthttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KevinC
<p>Sorry, Melanie. I certainly wasn't upset, and had no intention of making it seem like I was attacking your beliefs or opinion. I BELIEVE that riding on a 250 meter track with 45 degree banked walls would be a hoot (I used to ride in Northbrook 20 years ago), but is unlikely to result in broader adoption of year round cycling.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Melanie said:…</cite></p>
<p>Sorry, Melanie. I certainly wasn't upset, and had no intention of making it seem like I was attacking your beliefs or opinion. I BELIEVE that riding on a 250 meter track with 45 degree banked walls would be a hoot (I used to ride in Northbrook 20 years ago), but is unlikely to result in broader adoption of year round cycling.<br/> <br/> <cite>Melanie said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/there-s-only-one-indoor-velodrome-in-the-country-do-you-know?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A494905&x=1#2211490Comment494905"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><div><p>I have no idea what people will or will not do- I am just stating my belief and an opinion. I personally don't think it discourages anything by the way they are marketing- I ride year round and I actually thought it might be something interesting to check this place out and I'm not even into track racing or indoor cycling. I certainly didn't mean for anyone to get upset by my comment, either. I support winter cycling, in any form.</p>
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</blockquote> I'll pitch in the $10 to buy…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4946212011-12-19T22:50:47.324ZTony Adamshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TonyAdams
<p>I'll pitch in the $10 to buy a new domain name. The 4 season marketing angle was ill-conceived.</p>
<p>I'd also be happy to see a covered velodrome in the city but the organizers need to recognize that a roof is not required to cycle in Chicago in the winter. To suggest otherwise is either ignorant or insulting.</p>
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<p>edit: I'm not upset either. It does look like fun. I just think the 4 Seasons marketing angle is counterproductive to the promotion of year-round outdoor…</p>
<p>I'll pitch in the $10 to buy a new domain name. The 4 season marketing angle was ill-conceived.</p>
<p>I'd also be happy to see a covered velodrome in the city but the organizers need to recognize that a roof is not required to cycle in Chicago in the winter. To suggest otherwise is either ignorant or insulting.</p>
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<p>edit: I'm not upset either. It does look like fun. I just think the 4 Seasons marketing angle is counterproductive to the promotion of year-round outdoor biking.</p>
<p></p> I have no idea what people wi…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4949052011-12-19T22:30:42.147ZMelanie Khttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Melanie935
<div><p>I have no idea what people will or will not do- I am just stating my belief and an opinion. I personally don't think it discourages anything by the way they are marketing- I ride year round and I actually thought it might be something interesting to check this place out and I'm not even into track racing or indoor cycling. I certainly didn't mean for anyone to get upset by my comment, either. I support winter cycling, in any form.</p>
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<div><p>I have no idea what people will or will not do- I am just stating my belief and an opinion. I personally don't think it discourages anything by the way they are marketing- I ride year round and I actually thought it might be something interesting to check this place out and I'm not even into track racing or indoor cycling. I certainly didn't mean for anyone to get upset by my comment, either. I support winter cycling, in any form.</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Kevin C said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/there-s-only-one-indoor-velodrome-in-the-country-do-you-know?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A494619&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment494619"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Do you really think that people who are casual, six month per year riders, who don't already train indoors on simulators, are going to trek down to 86th and Burley and ride on a track with 45 degree banked walls? Doesn't strike me as a very effective targeted marketing plan to expand year round biking in Chicago.<br/> <br/> <cite>Melanie said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/there-s-only-one-indoor-velodrome-in-the-country-do-you-know?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A494617&x=1#2211490Comment494617"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Although I see your point, I feel the velodrome is still promoting cycling and maybe it would encourage people who don't ride in winter due to the cold and wet to dust off their bicycles and come out and try their hand at racing around, even if it is indoors. I guess to me, anything promoting cycling is a positive. [snip]</p>
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</blockquote> Actually should have contacte…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4948992011-12-19T22:20:26.021Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>Actually should have contacted Emmanuelle off-forum about this-- I don't always think clearly when checking in while juggling other things. I actually came back here to can this response.</p>
<p>But, here we are, so: I don't think anything I posted suggested in any way that I feel that the Velodrome project is not a positive thing for Chicago or doesn't promote cycling.</p>
<p>I have similarly contacted the "spinning crowd" with this concern upon receiving e-mails proclaiming you can't ride…</p>
<p>Actually should have contacted Emmanuelle off-forum about this-- I don't always think clearly when checking in while juggling other things. I actually came back here to can this response.</p>
<p>But, here we are, so: I don't think anything I posted suggested in any way that I feel that the Velodrome project is not a positive thing for Chicago or doesn't promote cycling.</p>
<p>I have similarly contacted the "spinning crowd" with this concern upon receiving e-mails proclaiming you can't ride outdoors in the wintertime, and have been met with a favorable response.</p>
<p>I think a reasonably creative person can come up with a marketing angle that doesn't work against the goals of organizations and campaigns they might hope to find partnership with.</p>
<p></p> Do you really think that peop…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4946192011-12-19T22:18:40.478ZKevin C Dormanthttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KevinC
<p>Do you really think that people who are casual, six month per year riders, who don't already train indoors on simulators, are going to trek down to 86th and Burley and ride on a track with 45 degree banked walls? Doesn't strike me as a very effective targeted marketing plan to expand year round biking in Chicago.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Melanie said:…</cite></p>
<p>Do you really think that people who are casual, six month per year riders, who don't already train indoors on simulators, are going to trek down to 86th and Burley and ride on a track with 45 degree banked walls? Doesn't strike me as a very effective targeted marketing plan to expand year round biking in Chicago.<br/> <br/> <cite>Melanie said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/there-s-only-one-indoor-velodrome-in-the-country-do-you-know?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A494617&x=1#2211490Comment494617"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Although I see your point, I feel the velodrome is still promoting cycling and maybe it would encourage people who don't ride in winter due to the cold and wet to dust off their bicycles and come out and try their hand at racing around, even if it is indoors. I guess to me, anything promoting cycling is a positive. [snip]</p>
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</blockquote> Although I see your point, I…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4946172011-12-19T21:43:57.731ZMelanie Khttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Melanie935
<p>Although I see your point, I feel the velodrome is still promoting cycling and maybe it would encourage people who don't ride in winter due to the cold and wet to dust off their bicycles and come out and try their hand at racing around, even if it is indoors. I guess to me, anything promoting cycling is a positive. I also wish more people would get on their bikes during winter and actually experience how relatively easy and enjoyable riding in winter can be, but at least this place is…</p>
<p>Although I see your point, I feel the velodrome is still promoting cycling and maybe it would encourage people who don't ride in winter due to the cold and wet to dust off their bicycles and come out and try their hand at racing around, even if it is indoors. I guess to me, anything promoting cycling is a positive. I also wish more people would get on their bikes during winter and actually experience how relatively easy and enjoyable riding in winter can be, but at least this place is promoting cycling in general, and I also think they are targeting an audience who normally uses only trainers in winter or the spinning crowd. <br/> <br/> <cite>h' said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/there-s-only-one-indoor-velodrome-in-the-country-do-you-know#2211490Comment494727"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I wonder if you would consider a slightly different angle than promoting the idea that one can only cycle 4-seasons by being able to do so indoors. A group of committed individuals have been working for 12 years to promote the idea that one can use a bicycle year-round for outdoor transportation in Chicago, and it's pretty clear that the idea is slowly gaining traction; your marketing tack feels like a step backwards.</p>
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</blockquote> I wonder if you would conside…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-12-19:2211490:Comment:4947272011-12-19T21:04:11.615Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>I wonder if you would consider a slightly different angle than promoting the idea that one can only cycle 4-seasons by being able to do so indoors. A group of committed individuals have been working for 12 years to promote the idea that one can use a bicycle year-round for outdoor transportation in Chicago, and it's pretty clear that the idea is slowly gaining traction; your marketing tack feels like a step backwards.</p>
<p>I wonder if you would consider a slightly different angle than promoting the idea that one can only cycle 4-seasons by being able to do so indoors. A group of committed individuals have been working for 12 years to promote the idea that one can use a bicycle year-round for outdoor transportation in Chicago, and it's pretty clear that the idea is slowly gaining traction; your marketing tack feels like a step backwards.</p>