The nice things motorists do - The Chainlink2024-03-29T13:00:07Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A111361&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYes, Alter Rd. is pretty dram…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-21:2211490:Comment:1122312009-08-21T04:09:02.033ZDavid P.https://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidAPertuz
Yes, Alter Rd. is pretty dramatic. I didn't commute down jefferson - I worked at Chrysler in Auburn Hills so I drove, usually misc. company vehicles. My riding was shopping, fun, going out, etc. Everything I liked to spend my time at was nearby in the city or in GP, so it was easy to bike most things.<br />
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Yes, Alter Rd. is pretty dramatic. I didn't commute down jefferson - I worked at Chrysler in Auburn Hills so I drove, usually misc. company vehicles. My riding was shopping, fun, going out, etc. Everything I liked to spend my time at was nearby in the city or in GP, so it was easy to bike most things.<br />
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<cite>Brian Kennedy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A111287&page=2#2211490Comment112189"><div>Awesome stories David. You are the man for doing the E. Jefferson commute from Grosse Pointe Park to Detroit. It would be hard to explain the transiton that takes place the millisecond you hit city limits to out-of-towners.<br/> <br/>
<cite>David A. Pertuz said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do?x=1&id=2211490%3ATopic%3A111287&page=2#2211490Comment111917"><div>Last spring I was riding down E. Jefferson in Detroit (where I lived until recently) from my home in GPP to downtown. Jefferson was in the middle of getting repaved, so the outer two westbound lanes were barrelled off. I was riding down the one open westbound lane when a car pulled out from a side street into the marked-off area next to me, then started to merge into me. I don't remember whether I shouted something first or he saw me, but he changed course, or I did. A few blocks later, as I was catching up to him, he rolled down his window and apologized for not noticing me. It was just a little gesture, but much appreciated. Little gestures can go a long way!<br/><br/>A couple of years before that, I was waiting at the light the foot of Woodward, in the middle of downtown, to turn onto Jefferson to go back home. I was in the rightmost of 3 or 4 lanes that turn left. When the light turned green, I left the line, and a car full of guys next to me, with all the windows down, said "I didn't see your turn signal, motherf***er!" and they all laughed madly. (It sounds hostile, but it wasn't.) A few blocks later, as I pulled up next to them at the light at the tunnel entrance, I stuck my left arm out and flashed my fist in a flashing-turn-signal motion, and they laughed even harder and I laughed too. I suppose that one just falls into the 'funny' category.<br/><br/>David</div>
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</blockquote> I've had a lot of positive ex…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-20:2211490:Comment:1119422009-08-20T13:38:00.363ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
I've had a lot of positive experiences riding in Beverly, Morgan Park and nearby neighborhoods. When I pull up at a 4-way stop, it's not unusual for drivers to wait and wave me through. I've had some pleasant conversations with people in cars while we were stopped, waiting for a freight train to pass. Once a driver told me I'd just dropped something - saved me from having to buy a new bungee cord. Sometimes drivers have just smiled and waved.
I've had a lot of positive experiences riding in Beverly, Morgan Park and nearby neighborhoods. When I pull up at a 4-way stop, it's not unusual for drivers to wait and wave me through. I've had some pleasant conversations with people in cars while we were stopped, waiting for a freight train to pass. Once a driver told me I'd just dropped something - saved me from having to buy a new bungee cord. Sometimes drivers have just smiled and waved. Last spring I was riding down…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-20:2211490:Comment:1119172009-08-20T06:16:45.342ZDavid P.https://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidAPertuz
Last spring I was riding down E. Jefferson in Detroit (where I lived until recently) from my home in GPP to downtown. Jefferson was in the middle of getting repaved, so the outer two westbound lanes were barrelled off. I was riding down the one open westbound lane when a car pulled out from a side street into the marked-off area next to me, then started to merge into me. I don't remember whether I shouted something first or he saw me, but he changed course, or I did. A few blocks later, as I…
Last spring I was riding down E. Jefferson in Detroit (where I lived until recently) from my home in GPP to downtown. Jefferson was in the middle of getting repaved, so the outer two westbound lanes were barrelled off. I was riding down the one open westbound lane when a car pulled out from a side street into the marked-off area next to me, then started to merge into me. I don't remember whether I shouted something first or he saw me, but he changed course, or I did. A few blocks later, as I was catching up to him, he rolled down his window and apologized for not noticing me. It was just a little gesture, but much appreciated. Little gestures can go a long way!<br />
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A couple of years before that, I was waiting at the light the foot of Woodward, in the middle of downtown, to turn onto Jefferson to go back home. I was in the rightmost of 3 or 4 lanes that turn left. When the light turned green, I left the line, and a car full of guys next to me, with all the windows down, said "I didn't see your turn signal, motherf***er!" and they all laughed madly. (It sounds hostile, but it wasn't.) A few blocks later, as I pulled up next to them at the light at the tunnel entrance, I stuck my left arm out and flashed my fist in a flashing-turn-signal motion, and they laughed even harder and I laughed too. I suppose that one just falls into the 'funny' category.<br />
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David and cabbies are usually the w…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-20:2211490:Comment:1118562009-08-20T02:47:03.997Zsharhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/shar
and cabbies are usually the worst<br />
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<cite>Natalie said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do#2211490Comment111698"><div>One day I was stopped somewhere on Chicago waiting for the light to change. A cabbie who was signaling to turn right was to my right with his window down. He struck up a conversation. I think he was flirting, but whatever! It was absolutely the nicest, most pleasant interaction I'd ever had with a cabbie and totally…</div>
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and cabbies are usually the worst<br />
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<cite>Natalie said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do#2211490Comment111698"><div>One day I was stopped somewhere on Chicago waiting for the light to change. A cabbie who was signaling to turn right was to my right with his window down. He struck up a conversation. I think he was flirting, but whatever! It was absolutely the nicest, most pleasant interaction I'd ever had with a cabbie and totally surprised me.<br/><br/>I always try to acknowledge when a driver has given me the right of way or otherwise been courteous (my inner voice says, "Thank you for not killing me."). I think it helps make that driver's next interaction with a cyclist more positive and ultimately benefits us all. Even if someone does something really stupid or dangerous, if it's evident it was unintentional and they apologize, I try to be polite rather than screaming an obscenity. It's all about the civility, baby. And god knows we all make mistakes. Of course, that's not to excuse carelessness; endangering a cyclist is wrong no matter what the intention was.<br/><br/>(I'm a human being, of course, and I lose my temper from time to time.)</div>
</blockquote> One day I was stopped somewhe…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-19:2211490:Comment:1116982009-08-19T22:07:16.164ZNataliehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Natalie
One day I was stopped somewhere on Chicago waiting for the light to change. A cabbie who was signaling to turn right was to my right with his window down. He struck up a conversation. I think he was flirting, but whatever! It was absolutely the nicest, most pleasant interaction I'd ever had with a cabbie and totally surprised me.<br />
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I always try to acknowledge when a driver has given me the right of way or otherwise been courteous (my inner voice says, "Thank you for not killing me."). I think it…
One day I was stopped somewhere on Chicago waiting for the light to change. A cabbie who was signaling to turn right was to my right with his window down. He struck up a conversation. I think he was flirting, but whatever! It was absolutely the nicest, most pleasant interaction I'd ever had with a cabbie and totally surprised me.<br />
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I always try to acknowledge when a driver has given me the right of way or otherwise been courteous (my inner voice says, "Thank you for not killing me."). I think it helps make that driver's next interaction with a cyclist more positive and ultimately benefits us all. Even if someone does something really stupid or dangerous, if it's evident it was unintentional and they apologize, I try to be polite rather than screaming an obscenity. It's all about the civility, baby. And god knows we all make mistakes. Of course, that's not to excuse carelessness; endangering a cyclist is wrong no matter what the intention was.<br />
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(I'm a human being, of course, and I lose my temper from time to time.) Me too! Even if their windows…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-19:2211490:Comment:1114582009-08-19T16:55:56.640ZLeahhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/leah
Me too! Even if their windows are up or it's clear they won't be able to hear you, a silently mouthed "thank you" to a driver goes a long way. Positive reinforcement! :)<br />
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<cite>iggi said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do#2211490Comment111450"><div>One common thread on...um...this thread... everyone is saying "Thank You". When i do experience courteous drivers, conscious door openers, aware pedestrians, and the likes, i make sure i…</div>
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Me too! Even if their windows are up or it's clear they won't be able to hear you, a silently mouthed "thank you" to a driver goes a long way. Positive reinforcement! :)<br />
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<cite>iggi said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do#2211490Comment111450"><div>One common thread on...um...this thread... everyone is saying "Thank You". When i do experience courteous drivers, conscious door openers, aware pedestrians, and the likes, i make sure i give a very clear Thank You as positive reinforcement.<br/>
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</blockquote> i have been seeing much of th…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-19:2211490:Comment:1114502009-08-19T16:30:30.129Zigzhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Iggy
i have been seeing much of this strange phoenomenon...people (driver) being nice. Crazy shit, right? i dont remember them being nice even when i was still in a car.<br />
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But i guess bicycles are finally getting the notice (tho not so much in the suburbs yet).<br />
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One common thread on...um...this thread... everyone is saying "Thank You". When i do experience courteous drivers, conscious door openers, aware pedestrians, and the likes, i make sure i give a very clear Thank You as positive…
i have been seeing much of this strange phoenomenon...people (driver) being nice. Crazy shit, right? i dont remember them being nice even when i was still in a car.<br />
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But i guess bicycles are finally getting the notice (tho not so much in the suburbs yet).<br />
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One common thread on...um...this thread... everyone is saying "Thank You". When i do experience courteous drivers, conscious door openers, aware pedestrians, and the likes, i make sure i give a very clear Thank You as positive reinforcement.<br />
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Keep showing the gratitude. The wife and I just returned…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-19:2211490:Comment:1113612009-08-19T11:31:11.328ZChuck a Muckhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ChuckaMuck
The wife and I just returned from 5 days of camping and biking in N.W. Indiana. Not 1 bad car experience the whole trip. I guess the worst of it was my arm got a cramp from returning waves from on coming cars.<br />
So to the drivers of White, Jasper, Benton and Tippicanoe Counties a big Thank You for being nice and considerate drivers!
The wife and I just returned from 5 days of camping and biking in N.W. Indiana. Not 1 bad car experience the whole trip. I guess the worst of it was my arm got a cramp from returning waves from on coming cars.<br />
So to the drivers of White, Jasper, Benton and Tippicanoe Counties a big Thank You for being nice and considerate drivers! I agree, though I have a lot…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-19:2211490:Comment:1113452009-08-19T05:51:43.406ZAndrew Bednohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AndrewBedno
I agree, though I have a lot of grouchy stories about cars, quite suddenly due to changing times I presume, I'm getting frequent confusions at intersections when cars of all types are too super-nice. Others echo the incident type, where you wish you'd known they were gonna be nice before killing your momentum. Say thanx!
I agree, though I have a lot of grouchy stories about cars, quite suddenly due to changing times I presume, I'm getting frequent confusions at intersections when cars of all types are too super-nice. Others echo the incident type, where you wish you'd known they were gonna be nice before killing your momentum. Say thanx! Same here Mark.
I have one f…tag:thechainlink.org,2009-08-19:2211490:Comment:1113362009-08-19T05:10:46.714ZTank-Ridin' Ryanhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Tank
Same here Mark.<br />
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I have one foot down, I'm leaning on my bars, and I have to eventually yell "GO!" at the driver. I know they are trying to be nice, but if we both decide to start crossing an intersection at the same time, I lose - case closed.<br />
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<cite>M.A.R.K. said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do#2211490Comment111325"><div>I have noticed this too.. While I so appreciate it, i get frustrated sometimes, mostly when it has happened…</div>
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Same here Mark.<br />
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I have one foot down, I'm leaning on my bars, and I have to eventually yell "GO!" at the driver. I know they are trying to be nice, but if we both decide to start crossing an intersection at the same time, I lose - case closed.<br />
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<cite>M.A.R.K. said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do#2211490Comment111325"><div>I have noticed this too.. While I so appreciate it, i get frustrated sometimes, mostly when it has happened several times in one day where I am noticeably stopping for traffic(stop pedaling, put a leg down, pull to the side, wave them on to let them know I am not running through)to go through their sign they wait until I come to a complete stop to go through their sign. Sometimes I just want to go through, but you never know how they will react. They could gun it, they could swear and yell, or they could be understanding to how tiring it can be to stop and go stop and go on a bicycle.<br/> <br/>
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<cite>Brian Kennedy said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-nice-things-motorists-do?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A111322&x=1#2211490Comment111322"><div>I've also noticed that the vast majority of motorists yield to me at 4-way stops even if they were there first.</div>
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