The Controversy Surrounding the City's Proposed Stony Island Avenue Protected Lane - The Chainlink2024-03-29T08:28:11Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/the-controversy-surrounding-the-city-s-proposed-stony-island-aven?feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe only problem with that id…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9653752016-01-26T18:11:58.044ZTom Zhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TomZ
<p>The only problem with that idea is it is not accurate. It takes longer than a week for people to adjust to new traffic patterns.</p>
<p>I've thought about the same idea. Take at look at construction closures, the first couple of weeks traffic is terrible, then things balance out.</p>
<p>Temporary lane closures are different than properly designed road configurations.</p>
<p>Now if the road is way over-built maybe it wouldn't make a difference. I wish it were than easy, maybe we would have a…</p>
<p>The only problem with that idea is it is not accurate. It takes longer than a week for people to adjust to new traffic patterns.</p>
<p>I've thought about the same idea. Take at look at construction closures, the first couple of weeks traffic is terrible, then things balance out.</p>
<p>Temporary lane closures are different than properly designed road configurations.</p>
<p>Now if the road is way over-built maybe it wouldn't make a difference. I wish it were than easy, maybe we would have a great bike lane on Milwaukee Ave, rather than the same old re-painted freeway.</p>
<p>Keep pushing back at the select few people not wanting the changes. They do a good job selling false information to others in the area resulting in no improvement for all users involved.</p> I tend to get to places early…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9652212016-01-26T17:29:04.592ZShawn A Conleyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ShawnAConley
<p>I tend to get to places early. I'll probably arrive in the earlier part of the event, and stay until about 8 pm or so. </p>
<p>I tend to get to places early. I'll probably arrive in the earlier part of the event, and stay until about 8 pm or so. </p> My apologies. The event is a…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9652202016-01-26T17:28:07.395ZShawn A Conleyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ShawnAConley
<p>My apologies. The event is at the Ancien Cycles on Milwaukee. Thanks for pointing it out, Elizabeth. Don't want to send people to the wrong place.</p>
<p>My apologies. The event is at the Ancien Cycles on Milwaukee. Thanks for pointing it out, Elizabeth. Don't want to send people to the wrong place.</p> That would be great. I'm not…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9651012016-01-26T17:28:00.561ZElizabethhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Elizabeth251
<p>That would be great. I'm not sure what's been done in the past for IDOT roads.</p>
<p>That would be great. I'm not sure what's been done in the past for IDOT roads.</p> This event? http://us9.campa…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9652192016-01-26T17:20:49.395ZElizabethhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Elizabeth251
<p>This event? <a href="http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=e9edacfa2114391938303da40&id=9698b16347" target="_blank">http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=e9edacfa2114391938303da40&id=9698b16347</a></p>
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<p>I thought it was in Ancien on Milwaukee. It would be awesome if it's in Hyde Park! Very excited about the new Ancien Cycles in Hyde Park. Now they just need their food license...</p>
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<p>This event? <a href="http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=e9edacfa2114391938303da40&id=9698b16347" target="_blank">http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=e9edacfa2114391938303da40&id=9698b16347</a></p>
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<p>I thought it was in Ancien on Milwaukee. It would be awesome if it's in Hyde Park! Very excited about the new Ancien Cycles in Hyde Park. Now they just need their food license...</p>
<p></p> When will you be hangin' at A…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9650702016-01-26T17:16:22.278Zcurt(is) lockehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/curtismyers
<p>When will you be hangin' at Ancien?</p>
<p>When will you be hangin' at Ancien?</p> How about a 1 week trial lane…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9650672016-01-26T16:50:47.136ZMike Schwabhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MikeSchwab80
<p>How about a 1 week trial lane reduction? Put up traffic cones in the proposed area for one week, right up to the crosswalk at each crossing.</p>
<p>How about a 1 week trial lane reduction? Put up traffic cones in the proposed area for one week, right up to the crosswalk at each crossing.</p> Exactly WHERE are these other…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9652732016-01-26T15:45:05.731Zcurt(is) lockehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/curtismyers
<p>Exactly WHERE are these other "alleged" bike lanes placed? South Shore Drive (which is regularly used as a temporary parking lane) is the only North-South route that I know that traverses Woodlawn/South Shore. South Chicago Avenue (which I LOVE blasting up & down) runs Southeast-Northwest and does not really serve to connect north-south transit. Of course, South Chicago Ave is so marginal that even cars don't use it much.</p>
<p>Exactly WHERE are these other "alleged" bike lanes placed? South Shore Drive (which is regularly used as a temporary parking lane) is the only North-South route that I know that traverses Woodlawn/South Shore. South Chicago Avenue (which I LOVE blasting up & down) runs Southeast-Northwest and does not really serve to connect north-south transit. Of course, South Chicago Ave is so marginal that even cars don't use it much.</p> Good luck with that. I agree…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9648722016-01-26T15:07:41.393Zcurt(is) lockehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/curtismyers
<p>Good luck with that. I agree regarding the resistance to change. "Quantitative evidence" will struggle against bias, prejudice, and unenlightened self-interest.</p>
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<p>I can say with certainty, without the benefit of an empirical analysis, that 55th Street is easier/safer to cross as a pedestrian as a result of the road diet. I would walk my children to school (Ray Elementary) every day by crossing 55th Street. Even with a crossing guard at Kimbark, there were constantly motorists…</p>
<p>Good luck with that. I agree regarding the resistance to change. "Quantitative evidence" will struggle against bias, prejudice, and unenlightened self-interest.</p>
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<p>I can say with certainty, without the benefit of an empirical analysis, that 55th Street is easier/safer to cross as a pedestrian as a result of the road diet. I would walk my children to school (Ray Elementary) every day by crossing 55th Street. Even with a crossing guard at Kimbark, there were constantly motorists who would ignore the guard, the sign, the painted crosswalk, and my two children holding my hands. Although I often choose not to use the bike lane myself when riding 55th Street (due to the amount of shrapnel that doesn't get swept), I do see that the UofC students utilize it a good deal.</p> I'd like to weigh in here. O…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-01-26:2211490:Comment:9652182016-01-26T14:47:57.879ZShawn A Conleyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ShawnAConley
<p>I'd like to weigh in here. Oboi, I will attend the Slow Roll event on Saturday. If anyone who is here would like to discuss this with us informally, you will be able to find both Oboi, leader of Slow Roll Chicago, and me, chairman of the Major Taylor Chicago, at Ancien Cycles in Hyde Park Saturday evening. I mention our organizations because not only do we ride OFTEN in her ward, some of our members are residents of her ward.</p>
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<p>Additionally, Major Taylor Chicago has…</p>
<p>I'd like to weigh in here. Oboi, I will attend the Slow Roll event on Saturday. If anyone who is here would like to discuss this with us informally, you will be able to find both Oboi, leader of Slow Roll Chicago, and me, chairman of the Major Taylor Chicago, at Ancien Cycles in Hyde Park Saturday evening. I mention our organizations because not only do we ride OFTEN in her ward, some of our members are residents of her ward.</p>
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<p>Additionally, Major Taylor Chicago has encouraged our members to write Alderwoman Hairston and have gotten the same response back verbatim from Kimberly Webb. We'd like to encourage everyone who would like to see cycling lanes on Stony Island to contact her. She allows you to do this on her <a href="http://hairston.squarespace.com/contact-us/" target="_blank">website</a>. And, be prepared to get the same response that was posted here by Elizabeth. </p>
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<p>Anne, we'd love to get CCC in on this. We'll talk soon. </p>
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