Powdercoating and Assembling a Bike - $$ and where? - The Chainlink2024-03-29T00:34:52Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/powdercoating-and-assembling-a-bike-and-where?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A538029&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHaha actually that's just blu…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-28:2211490:Comment:5395372012-04-28T01:56:32.824ZMatthew Swartwouthttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MatthewSwartwout
<p>Haha actually that's just blue painters tape. It's just temporary until I get a clear chainstay protector. The fork is not straight if that's what you mean, it does curve forward at its ends.</p>
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<p>Haha actually that's just blue painters tape. It's just temporary until I get a clear chainstay protector. The fork is not straight if that's what you mean, it does curve forward at its ends.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/powdercoating-and-assembling-a-bike-and-where?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A537960&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment537960"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That is frakking beautiful. What are you using there for a protector on the chainstay?</p>
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<p>If this were BikeForums.net I'd have to say the fork looks bent but I'm sure it's just the camera angle.<br/> <br/> <cite>Matthew Swartwout said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/powdercoating-and-assembling-a-bike-and-where?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A538021&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment538029"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Just had my 1979 Rampar Touring 14 powder coated this winter. Had the guys at Urban Powdercoat do it. $100 for the frame and fork, turn around time of about 2-3 weeks, great quality. PM me if you want their info.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p>
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</blockquote> Beautiful work! I especially…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5381972012-04-24T23:02:37.915ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>Beautiful work! I especially enjoyed the creative ones: tiki bike, plaid, flower bike, and Schwinn retro. The Marshall Field's tribute is fun, too.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Andy Pielet said:</cite></p>
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<p>Beautiful work! I especially enjoyed the creative ones: tiki bike, plaid, flower bike, and Schwinn retro. The Marshall Field's tribute is fun, too.<br/> <br/> <cite>Andy Pielet said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> That is frakking beautiful. …tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5379602012-04-24T20:14:26.139ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>That is frakking beautiful. What are you using there for a protector on the chainstay?</p>
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<p>If this were BikeForums.net I'd have to say the fork looks bent but I'm sure it's just the camera angle.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Matthew Swartwout said:</cite></p>
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<p>That is frakking beautiful. What are you using there for a protector on the chainstay?</p>
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<p>If this were BikeForums.net I'd have to say the fork looks bent but I'm sure it's just the camera angle.<br/> <br/> <cite>Matthew Swartwout said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/powdercoating-and-assembling-a-bike-and-where?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A538021&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment538029"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Just had my 1979 Rampar Touring 14 powder coated this winter. Had the guys at Urban Powdercoat do it. $100 for the frame and fork, turn around time of about 2-3 weeks, great quality. PM me if you want their info.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p>
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</blockquote> Just had my 1979 Rampar Touri…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5380292012-04-24T19:24:46.392ZMatthew Swartwouthttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MatthewSwartwout
<p>Just had my 1979 Rampar Touring 14 powder coated this winter. Had the guys at Urban Powdercoat do it. $100 for the frame and fork, turn around time of about 2-3 weeks, great quality. PM me if you want their info.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p>Just had my 1979 Rampar Touring 14 powder coated this winter. Had the guys at Urban Powdercoat do it. $100 for the frame and fork, turn around time of about 2-3 weeks, great quality. PM me if you want their info.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35242209?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> Messing about with bicycles,…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5379452012-04-24T19:01:36.457ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>Messing about with bicycles, no matter how trivial (or even if the bike in question is a POS) is never time wasted in my opinion.</p>
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<p>Talking about, and actually riding bicycles is also just as fun. Most time not spent doing any of the above 3 is just "off time" as far as I'm concerned -with a few notable exceptions ;)<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tony Adams said:…</cite></p>
<p>Messing about with bicycles, no matter how trivial (or even if the bike in question is a POS) is never time wasted in my opinion.</p>
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<p>Talking about, and actually riding bicycles is also just as fun. Most time not spent doing any of the above 3 is just "off time" as far as I'm concerned -with a few notable exceptions ;)<br/> <br/> <cite>Tony Adams said:</cite></p>
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<p>I'm kinda torn about what to do with the two speed - I love the idea of something super matte, but I also love the idea of just leaving it as is. Less work, less noxious waste, etc. I'll strip the donor to the frame and clean it up - that might make the next step(s) more obvious.</p>
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</blockquote> Check out Chester Cycles on t…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5378302012-04-24T18:34:43.948ZApie (11)https://thechainlink.org/profile/AndyPielet
<p>Check out Chester Cycles on the NW side, they do some good work:</p>
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<p>Check out Chester Cycles on the NW side, they do some good work:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.chestercycles.com/">http://www.chestercycles.com/</a></p> It is all useful stuff James…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5380212012-04-24T18:19:50.348ZTony Adamshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TonyAdams
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<p>It is all useful stuff James. I would not worry about posting too much as long as your content is this good.</p>
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<p>I'm kinda torn about what to do with the two speed - I love the idea of something super matte, but I also love the idea of just leaving it as is. Less work, less noxious waste, etc. I'll strip the donor to the frame and clean it up - that might make the next step(s) more obvious.</p>
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<p>It is all useful stuff James. I would not worry about posting too much as long as your content is this good.</p>
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<p>I'm kinda torn about what to do with the two speed - I love the idea of something super matte, but I also love the idea of just leaving it as is. Less work, less noxious waste, etc. I'll strip the donor to the frame and clean it up - that might make the next step(s) more obvious.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>James BlackHeron said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> I have a Lotus Legend Compe t…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5377682012-04-24T16:23:38.706Zgillian wuhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/gillianwu
<p>I have a Lotus Legend Compe that I'm willing to throw down a lot of cash on fully restoring-- my plan is to take it to UV for powder coating. AFAIK UV is currently undergoing a change in management and powder coating services will be available in July (this is hearsay so don't quote me). My only reservation is that I won't be able to preserve my bike's original decals, and I'm having a hell of a time finding the ones I want online. Boo.</p>
<p>I have a Lotus Legend Compe that I'm willing to throw down a lot of cash on fully restoring-- my plan is to take it to UV for powder coating. AFAIK UV is currently undergoing a change in management and powder coating services will be available in July (this is hearsay so don't quote me). My only reservation is that I won't be able to preserve my bike's original decals, and I'm having a hell of a time finding the ones I want online. Boo.</p> Forgive me if I'm over-postin…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5378032012-04-24T15:44:54.737ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>Forgive me if I'm over-posting and dominating this discussion but as someone who likes to fix-up and restore bikes I've found that often times the factory paint on a bicycle is often salvagable and can be made to look quite nice again if one knows the tricks.</p>
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<p>Usually a frame will start to look pretty haggard if it has a lot of grunge, messed-up decals and a few scratches and dings that have been allowed to rust or look pitted.</p>
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<p>But under all that mooge is usually…</p>
<p>Forgive me if I'm over-posting and dominating this discussion but as someone who likes to fix-up and restore bikes I've found that often times the factory paint on a bicycle is often salvagable and can be made to look quite nice again if one knows the tricks.</p>
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<p>Usually a frame will start to look pretty haggard if it has a lot of grunge, messed-up decals and a few scratches and dings that have been allowed to rust or look pitted.</p>
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<p>But under all that mooge is usually good paint hidden deep down. If decals are peeling and looking icky I will just remove them (unless they have been clearcoated over but when they are they tend not to get messed up) A good hair dryer usually has enough heat to remove decals but a heat gun does it much better. You want just enough heat to make them shrink and pull but not damage the paint under them. Sneak up on the heat setting until you hit this point and they come right off.</p>
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<p>Then use a product like Scratch-X or other automotive paint polish available at any car store like O'Reiley's or Pep boys. This is best done when a frame is stripped and with a little bit of rubbing the oxidized surface paint, crud, surface rust stains, road tar, and other yuck will be slowly stripped off revealing a nice hard paint underneith that will shine up like new. Even rusty chips and scratches will clean up and will turn a nice metal-grey instead of ugly brown rust. A few scratches and chips will fade into the background when a nice shiny polished paint surface is brought back up to a high gloss. Even a severely chipped and scratched frame can look great again if some work has been put into it. </p>
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<p>This mixte frame was REALLY nasty and has chips and scratches scarring the entire surface. But after this treatment it looks fairly nice. The patina that is left is still pleasing to the eye IMHO. Maybe that is just me.</p>
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<p>I wish I could find a "before" picture of this frame but it was REALLY nasty and gross/rusty. I'm sure it was much worse than the frame you are working on now. </p>
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<p>When it is clean and polished just put on a few coats of high-quality auto wax over the paint and the chips/scratches to make it even more glossy and to protect the bare metal parts from re-rusting. It's surprising how nice an old factory painted frame can look if you polish it up.</p>
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<p>If one prefers to have some new decals you can make your own decals fairly cheaply at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://doityourselflettering.com/create/" target="_blank">this place</a>. They are very nice if you get the "premium vinyl" and not very costly at all if you do your own "weeding" rather than have them do that for you. A large decal can be under $3 and smaller ones around a buck. Look at my other photos to see some of the lettering I have done on my bikes and some of the ones I've restored to sell. I'm very happy with their product and their prices. Put the decals on before you wax -or strip the wax off with windex first or they won't stick -then rewax over them too. </p>
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<p>For an older frame on a budget bike you don't want to spend a lot of money on, doing a scratch-x polish on the frame and a nice wax goes a long way toward making the bike look fabulous again without dropping a couple hundred on a powdercoat if it isn't something super-special that really deserves that kind of cash being spent on it (some bikes really do deserve this though.)</p>
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<p>I'll shut up now before I get yelled at for posting too much.</p>
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<p></p> They (the ubiquitous "they")…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-24:2211490:Comment:5378772012-04-24T14:48:40.760ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>They (the ubiquitous <em>"they"</em>) sell a matte spray-on bedliner but I have heard that it isn't nearly as hard or durable as the Herculiner. It does have a nice matte sheen to it, unlike the Herc which does tend to have shiny and matte bits interspersed as the texture mottles. As Herc ages in the sunlite it does tend to get more matte, and it tends to collect grunge a little bit too in the nooks and crannies of the texture which also tends to make it more matte as time goes on. If…</p>
<p>They (the ubiquitous <em>"they"</em>) sell a matte spray-on bedliner but I have heard that it isn't nearly as hard or durable as the Herculiner. It does have a nice matte sheen to it, unlike the Herc which does tend to have shiny and matte bits interspersed as the texture mottles. As Herc ages in the sunlite it does tend to get more matte, and it tends to collect grunge a little bit too in the nooks and crannies of the texture which also tends to make it more matte as time goes on. If one wants it more shiny/clean a rag moistened with Xylene tends to freshen it right up.</p>
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<p>I actually used this technique on my motorcycle's gas tank where I wanted it rough so as to be more grippy.</p>
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<p>I also put a little bit on the bottom scoop part of the fairing to protect from stone chips thrown up by the front wheel. I like how it turned out. I'm not sure how I'd like that same texture on a bicycle though.</p>