Pedestrians Stepping into Dearborn PBL - The Chainlink2024-03-29T08:54:52Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710618&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have found that when stoppe…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-22:2211490:Comment:7108432013-06-22T19:59:14.934ZAlex Zhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AlexZ
<p>I have found that when stopped, southbound, at Wacker, I almost always make it through Lake, stop at Randolph, make it through Washington, stop at Madison. Not too bad.</p>
<p>I have found that when stopped, southbound, at Wacker, I almost always make it through Lake, stop at Randolph, make it through Washington, stop at Madison. Not too bad.</p> I usually say "head's up, HEA…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-22:2211490:Comment:7108402013-06-22T19:50:51.878ZJane Healyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Jane
<p>I usually say "head's up, HEAD'S UP!" for any pedestrian who looks clueless (i.e. texting, looking at feet, seeming confused). For people who are standing in the bike lane to get a jump on the crosswalk light, I usually ring my bell. I also try to politely remind them "don't forget the bike lane is two ways here."</p>
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<p>I've found that if I ring my bell for the clueless types, they don't "get it" in time to make a meaningful difference. If I holler "head's up!" they typically…</p>
<p>I usually say "head's up, HEAD'S UP!" for any pedestrian who looks clueless (i.e. texting, looking at feet, seeming confused). For people who are standing in the bike lane to get a jump on the crosswalk light, I usually ring my bell. I also try to politely remind them "don't forget the bike lane is two ways here."</p>
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<p>I've found that if I ring my bell for the clueless types, they don't "get it" in time to make a meaningful difference. If I holler "head's up!" they typically jump to respond.</p>
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<p>FWIW, I'm not a crazy speedster on a bike. My general pace is about 10 mph, and probably significantly less in the Dearborn lane.</p>
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<p>Off topic: has anyone else noticed what a difference it makes going Southbound as far as the timing of the lights goes? I end up stopping at every block due to the red lights. <sigh></p> Just used this feature recent…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-22:2211490:Comment:7105712013-06-22T16:24:13.821ZJulia 3.5/7.5 mihttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JuliaC
<p>Just used this feature recently - I didn't realize it was new. I had an encounter with a cab driver who drove into the Dearborn lane, nearly hitting me, sat there at an angle while a few other bikes swerved around into traffic, then argued with a pedestrian and hotel doorman before eventually threatening to run me over and exiting the lane. Good riddance. I'll post an update if the city actually does anything about it - I sent the complaint via web, and they sent back paperwork to basically…</p>
<p>Just used this feature recently - I didn't realize it was new. I had an encounter with a cab driver who drove into the Dearborn lane, nearly hitting me, sat there at an angle while a few other bikes swerved around into traffic, then argued with a pedestrian and hotel doorman before eventually threatening to run me over and exiting the lane. Good riddance. I'll post an update if the city actually does anything about it - I sent the complaint via web, and they sent back paperwork to basically fill out the entire form again...<br/> <br/> <cite>Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710618&x=1#2211490Comment710589"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>You can report it all on line now and attaching photos is encouraged.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller?op=locform&invSRType=CSC&invSRDesc=Cab%20Complaint&locreq=Y&stnumreqd=Y">https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller...</a><br/> <br/> <cite>h' 1.0 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710588&x=1#2211490Comment710588"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Pulling out your phone and taking pictures seems to get their attention, if not always a desired response...</p>
<p>What exactly happens to a 311 report of a taxi sitting in a bike lane?</p>
<p>I thought they sent you a physical form to fill out and send in?</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710586&x=1#2211490Comment710586"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I've learned that it's best to just let it slide at the moment and report them via 311 later. I've had a few encounters with cabbies who cut me off and what ends up happening is they get pissed and try to run me over. It's not worth it.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710366&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710366"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>...and they wouldn't care if they did hear, but, I feel like its my responsibility to stand up for the bike lane. :)<br/> <br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710328&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Taxi drivers can't hear you yelling.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710414&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710414"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I also give a yell to taxis and cars double parked in the bike lane: "You're in a bike lane!" I tend to yell that in a not-so-friendly tone since it forces cyclists into traffic.</p>
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</blockquote> When you're right you're righ…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-22:2211490:Comment:7106182013-06-22T15:50:03.295ZSoelhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SamGaitan581
<p>When you're right you're right. . I wouldnt certainly not do such a thing with kids present. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jeff Schneider said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A707301&page=4#2211490Comment710727"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I would reconsider using that tactic. You can never be completely sure what others will do. Your planned "near miss" could turn into a collision. And a…</p>
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<p>When you're right you're right. . I wouldnt certainly not do such a thing with kids present. <br/> <br/> <cite>Jeff Schneider said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A707301&page=4#2211490Comment710727"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I would reconsider using that tactic. You can never be completely sure what others will do. Your planned "near miss" could turn into a collision. And a collision that might not harm a healthy young adult could be pretty serious for the frail or small kids.<span style="font-size: 13px;"><br/></span></p>
<p><br/> <cite>Sam Gaitán said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710799&x=1#2211490Comment710799"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Honestly i am a menace when it comes to obeying traffic laws but when i really need to get the point of a bike lane across nothing is more effective than a good silent near miss. The gust of wind that follows a messenger will surely remind them to always look both ways when stepping off a curb.</p>
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<p>As a bike messenger I deal with the Cellphone lane on Dearborn on a regular basis. First off i do not use this lane during rush periods. I find with high speeds biking with traffic is quicker and safer depending on your destination. I always carry a whistle to warn the groups of people stepping into the lane hastily j walking at intersections. Honestly i am a menace when it comes to obeying traffic laws but when i really need to get the point of a bike lane across nothing is more effective…</p>
<p>As a bike messenger I deal with the Cellphone lane on Dearborn on a regular basis. First off i do not use this lane during rush periods. I find with high speeds biking with traffic is quicker and safer depending on your destination. I always carry a whistle to warn the groups of people stepping into the lane hastily j walking at intersections. Honestly i am a menace when it comes to obeying traffic laws but when i really need to get the point of a bike lane across nothing is more effective than a good silent near miss. The gust of wind that follows a messenger will surely remind them to always look both ways when stepping off a curb. </p>
<p>From the cars and trucks speeding out of alleys, pedestrians with their nose deep in cell phones, and bike commuters I leave this beautiful protected bike lane to them.</p> Yeah!!!! Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-21:2211490:Comment:7105922013-06-21T21:26:24.689ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>Yeah!!!!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710589&x=1#2211490Comment710589"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>You can report it all on line now and attaching photos is encouraged.…</p>
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<p>Yeah!!!!<br/> <br/> <cite>Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710589&x=1#2211490Comment710589"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>You can report it all on line now and attaching photos is encouraged.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller?op=locform&invSRType=CSC&invSRDesc=Cab%20Complaint&locreq=Y&stnumreqd=Y">https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller...</a><br/> <br/></p>
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</blockquote> You can report it all on line…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-21:2211490:Comment:7105892013-06-21T21:22:18.395ZLisa Curciohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LisaCurcio
<p>You can report it all on line now and attaching photos is encouraged.</p>
<p><a href="https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller?op=locform&invSRType=CSC&invSRDesc=Cab%20Complaint&locreq=Y&stnumreqd=Y">https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller?op=locform&invSRType=CSC&invSRDesc=Cab%20Complaint&locreq=Y&stnumreqd=Y</a><br></br> <br></br> <cite>h' 1.0 said:…</cite></p>
<p>You can report it all on line now and attaching photos is encouraged.</p>
<p><a href="https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller?op=locform&invSRType=CSC&invSRDesc=Cab%20Complaint&locreq=Y&stnumreqd=Y">https://servicerequest.cityofchicago.org/web_intake_chic/Controller?op=locform&invSRType=CSC&invSRDesc=Cab%20Complaint&locreq=Y&stnumreqd=Y</a><br/> <br/> <cite>h' 1.0 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710588&x=1#2211490Comment710588"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Pulling out your phone and taking pictures seems to get their attention, if not always a desired response...</p>
<p>What exactly happens to a 311 report of a taxi sitting in a bike lane?</p>
<p>I thought they sent you a physical form to fill out and send in?</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710586&x=1#2211490Comment710586"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I've learned that it's best to just let it slide at the moment and report them via 311 later. I've had a few encounters with cabbies who cut me off and what ends up happening is they get pissed and try to run me over. It's not worth it.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710366&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710366"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>...and they wouldn't care if they did hear, but, I feel like its my responsibility to stand up for the bike lane. :)<br/> <br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710328&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Taxi drivers can't hear you yelling.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710414&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710414"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I also give a yell to taxis and cars double parked in the bike lane: "You're in a bike lane!" I tend to yell that in a not-so-friendly tone since it forces cyclists into traffic.</p>
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</blockquote> Pulling out your phone and ta…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-21:2211490:Comment:7105882013-06-21T21:18:55.149Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>Pulling out your phone and taking pictures seems to get their attention, if not always a desired response...</p>
<p>What exactly happens to a 311 report of a taxi sitting in a bike lane?</p>
<p>I thought they sent you a physical form to fill out and send in?</p>
<p><br></br> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:…</cite></p>
<p>Pulling out your phone and taking pictures seems to get their attention, if not always a desired response...</p>
<p>What exactly happens to a 311 report of a taxi sitting in a bike lane?</p>
<p>I thought they sent you a physical form to fill out and send in?</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?page=4&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710586&x=1#2211490Comment710586"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I've learned that it's best to just let it slide at the moment and report them via 311 later. I've had a few encounters with cabbies who cut me off and what ends up happening is they get pissed and try to run me over. It's not worth it.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710366&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710366"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>...and they wouldn't care if they did hear, but, I feel like its my responsibility to stand up for the bike lane. :)<br/> <br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710328&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Taxi drivers can't hear you yelling.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710414&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710414"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I also give a yell to taxis and cars double parked in the bike lane: "You're in a bike lane!" I tend to yell that in a not-so-friendly tone since it forces cyclists into traffic.</p>
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</blockquote> I've learned that it's best t…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-21:2211490:Comment:7105862013-06-21T20:46:46.818ZAdam Hersteinhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AdamHerstein
<p>I've learned that it's best to just let it slide at the moment and report them via 311 later. I've had a few encounters with cabbies who cut me off and what ends up happening is they get pissed and try to run me over. It's not worth it.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I've learned that it's best to just let it slide at the moment and report them via 311 later. I've had a few encounters with cabbies who cut me off and what ends up happening is they get pissed and try to run me over. It's not worth it.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710366&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710366"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>...and they wouldn't care if they did hear, but, I feel like its my responsibility to stand up for the bike lane. :)<br/> <br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710328&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Taxi drivers can't hear you yelling.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710414&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710414"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I also give a yell to taxis and cars double parked in the bike lane: "You're in a bike lane!" I tend to yell that in a not-so-friendly tone since it forces cyclists into traffic.</p>
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</blockquote> ...and they wouldn't care if…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-06-21:2211490:Comment:7103662013-06-21T20:12:27.432ZGlenn Bradfordhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/GlennBradford
<p>...and they wouldn't care if they did hear, but, I feel like its my responsibility to stand up for the bike lane. :)<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710328&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Taxi drivers can't hear you yelling.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:…</cite></p>
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<p>...and they wouldn't care if they did hear, but, I feel like its my responsibility to stand up for the bike lane. :)<br/> <br/> <cite>Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710328&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Taxi drivers can't hear you yelling.<br/> <br/> <cite>Glenn Bradford said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/pedestrians-stepping-into-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A710414&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment710414"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I also give a yell to taxis and cars double parked in the bike lane: "You're in a bike lane!" I tend to yell that in a not-so-friendly tone since it forces cyclists into traffic.</p>
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