Murder Machines:Why Cars Will Kill 30,000 Americans This Year - The Chainlink2024-03-29T13:23:11Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSurprisingly, I find taxi dri…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-28:2211490:Comment:8066112014-03-28T02:30:27.944ZKris Hendryhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KrisHendry
<p>Surprisingly, I find taxi drivers fairly courteous when I bike. I am a bit intimidated by the police and fire trucks that speed by. Granted there is a emergency and I've been told the firehouse on Wilson is one of the busiest in the city. I find the big white work truck vans to drive extremely dangerously. I guess I have to expect that is "life in the big city" though.</p>
<p>Surprisingly, I find taxi drivers fairly courteous when I bike. I am a bit intimidated by the police and fire trucks that speed by. Granted there is a emergency and I've been told the firehouse on Wilson is one of the busiest in the city. I find the big white work truck vans to drive extremely dangerously. I guess I have to expect that is "life in the big city" though.</p> tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-27:2211490:Comment:8063902014-03-27T18:32:04.679ZGort 12-mile Pinklegneephttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PeenwormGrubologist
<p><a href="http://www.marriedtothesea.com/032614/a-fun-machine.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.marriedtothesea.com/032614/a-fun-machine.gif" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.marriedtothesea.com/032614/a-fun-machine.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.marriedtothesea.com/032614/a-fun-machine.gif" class="align-full"/></a></p> There are fewer fatalities be…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-27:2211490:Comment:8061552014-03-27T15:14:35.758ZJoe Guzzardohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JoeGuzzardo
<p>There are fewer fatalities because there are <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/vehicle-miles-driven-2013-2" target="_blank">fewer miles driven</a>. I'd have guessed that's due to the effects of our recession and rising gasoline prices, but the price of gas doesn't correlate.</p>
<p>There are fewer fatalities because there are <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/vehicle-miles-driven-2013-2" target="_blank">fewer miles driven</a>. I'd have guessed that's due to the effects of our recession and rising gasoline prices, but the price of gas doesn't correlate.</p> It's more likely to do with t…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-27:2211490:Comment:8061382014-03-27T03:50:52.822ZGort 12-mile Pinklegneephttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PeenwormGrubologist
<p>It's more likely to do with the drop in per capita miles driven since that's been going down far more than vehicle safety technology has gone up since 2008. This <em>is</em> of good use to cyclists and pedestrians. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Bike Bloke said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802581"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><br></br> I suspect the drop in US road deaths is largely…</p>
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<p>It's more likely to do with the drop in per capita miles driven since that's been going down far more than vehicle safety technology has gone up since 2008. This <em>is</em> of good use to cyclists and pedestrians. <br/> <br/> <cite>Bike Bloke said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802581"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><br/> I suspect the drop in US road deaths is largely down to safety features for people in automobiles - airbags and the like. Such safety features are of no use to cyclists and pedestrians who, I suspect, may be further endangered by drivers reducing safety margins because of their own enhanced safety. </p>
<p>These days I live in Houston, TX and in the city at least, most drivers are surprisingly aware and courteous. However, the worst and most dangerous drivers almost all drive those big pick-ups they advertise during football games (oooh, so manly!), or large SUVs.</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Julie Hochstadter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802505"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's a HUGE drop, that's great.<br/> <br/> <cite>Mike Schwab said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year?xg_source=activity#2211490Comment802502"><div><p>Used to be 40,000 a year through 2008.</p>
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</blockquote> What is worse, to stereotype…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-26:2211490:Comment:8062972014-03-26T21:31:44.105ZRobert Underwoodhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/RobertUnderwood
<p>What is worse, to stereotype SUV drivers as manly, or to stereotype them as a danger to cyclists? Stereotyping is offensive when we judge someone without actually knowing them. to say that people were assailed during the nineties is also a stereotype, its just that the "nineties" won't feel pain due to a false accusation. I'm not even sure of the exact definition of "stereotype", and I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment. I would say that most taxi drivers treat me with a great deal…</p>
<p>What is worse, to stereotype SUV drivers as manly, or to stereotype them as a danger to cyclists? Stereotyping is offensive when we judge someone without actually knowing them. to say that people were assailed during the nineties is also a stereotype, its just that the "nineties" won't feel pain due to a false accusation. I'm not even sure of the exact definition of "stereotype", and I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment. I would say that most taxi drivers treat me with a great deal of respect and courtesy. But its ok to stereotype when saying something nice. oops, that was sarcasm.<br/> <br/> <cite>Reboot Oxnard said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802520"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yet, were someone to say that people buying bikes are <em>oooh, so girly</em>, you'd have your panties in a twist. Even if the stereotypes were true, didn't you get the memo that assailing people's sexual orientation is so...nineties?<br/> <br/> <cite>Bike Bloke said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802581"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>However, the worst and most dangerous drivers almost all drive those big pick-ups they advertise during football games (oooh, so manly!), or large SUVs.</p>
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</blockquote> Thank you for that link, Jaik…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-11:2211490:Comment:8023572014-03-11T16:49:44.701ZAnnehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne59
<p>Thank you for that link, Jaik, excellent reading. A really cool website all together!</p>
<p>Thank you for that link, Jaik, excellent reading. A really cool website all together!</p> Self driving cars. That is th…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-11:2211490:Comment:8024212014-03-11T14:19:47.395ZDanGer 8.2mihttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DanielGoedert
<p>Self driving cars. That is the answer. They knew it from the start. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>h' 1.0 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802419"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>34,000 in 2012. Not quite cause to celebrate. The biggest drop was when the economy tanked and a lot of people had no jobs to drive to. I'm missing where the 30,000 figure comes from.…<br></br> <br></br></p>
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<p>Self driving cars. That is the answer. They knew it from the start. <br/> <br/> <cite>h' 1.0 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802419"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>34,000 in 2012. Not quite cause to celebrate. The biggest drop was when the economy tanked and a lot of people had no jobs to drive to. I'm missing where the 30,000 figure comes from.<br/> <br/> <cite>Julie Hochstadter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802505"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's a HUGE drop, that's great.<br/> <br/> <cite>Mike Schwab said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year?xg_source=activity#2211490Comment802502"><div><p>Used to be 40,000 a year through 2008.</p>
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</blockquote> 34,000 in 2012. Not quite cau…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-11:2211490:Comment:8024192014-03-11T12:40:45.918Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>34,000 in 2012. Not quite cause to celebrate. The biggest drop was when the economy tanked and a lot of people had no jobs to drive to. I'm missing where the 30,000 figure comes from.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Julie Hochstadter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802505"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's a HUGE drop, that's great.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Mike Schwab…</cite></p>
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<p>34,000 in 2012. Not quite cause to celebrate. The biggest drop was when the economy tanked and a lot of people had no jobs to drive to. I'm missing where the 30,000 figure comes from.<br/> <br/> <cite>Julie Hochstadter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802505"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's a HUGE drop, that's great.<br/> <br/> <cite>Mike Schwab said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year?xg_source=activity#2211490Comment802502"><div><p>Used to be 40,000 a year through 2008.</p>
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</blockquote> Yet, were someone to say that…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-11:2211490:Comment:8025202014-03-11T11:41:57.061ZReboot Oxnardhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/RebootOxnard
<p>Yet, were someone to say that people buying bikes are <em>oooh, so girly</em>, you'd have your panties in a twist. Even if the stereotypes were true, didn't you get the memo that assailing people's sexual orientation is so...nineties?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Bike Bloke said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802581"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>However, the worst and most…</p>
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<p>Yet, were someone to say that people buying bikes are <em>oooh, so girly</em>, you'd have your panties in a twist. Even if the stereotypes were true, didn't you get the memo that assailing people's sexual orientation is so...nineties?<br/> <br/> <cite>Bike Bloke said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802581"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>However, the worst and most dangerous drivers almost all drive those big pick-ups they advertise during football games (oooh, so manly!), or large SUVs.</p>
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</blockquote> I suspect the drop in US roa…tag:thechainlink.org,2014-03-11:2211490:Comment:8025812014-03-11T01:43:30.785ZBike Blokehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PaulBacon
<p><br></br> I suspect the drop in US road deaths is largely down to safety features for people in automobiles - airbags and the like. Such safety features are of no use to cyclists and pedestrians who, I suspect, may be further endangered by drivers reducing safety margins because of their own enhanced safety. </p>
<p>These days I live in Houston, TX and in the city at least, most drivers are surprisingly aware and courteous. However, the worst and most dangerous drivers almost all drive those big…</p>
<p><br/> I suspect the drop in US road deaths is largely down to safety features for people in automobiles - airbags and the like. Such safety features are of no use to cyclists and pedestrians who, I suspect, may be further endangered by drivers reducing safety margins because of their own enhanced safety. </p>
<p>These days I live in Houston, TX and in the city at least, most drivers are surprisingly aware and courteous. However, the worst and most dangerous drivers almost all drive those big pick-ups they advertise during football games (oooh, so manly!), or large SUVs.</p>
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<p><br/> <cite>Julie Hochstadter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year#2211490Comment802505"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>That's a HUGE drop, that's great.<br/> <br/> <cite>Mike Schwab said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/murder-machines-why-cars-will-kill-30-000-americans-this-year?xg_source=activity#2211490Comment802502"><div><p>Used to be 40,000 a year through 2008.</p>
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