Lakefront Trail now officially closed overnight? - The Chainlink2024-03-29T08:06:53Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/lakefront-trail-now-officially?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A365727&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFWIW, I rode from Monroe Harb…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-30:2211490:Comment:3681042011-06-30T17:29:01.664ZJamie Elenbaashttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JamieElenbaas
FWIW, I rode from Monroe Harbor to the Addison Pedway at about 11:30 last night. There were bikes and pedestrians on the path along with several strategically placed CPD SUVs. The LEOs apperead to be keeping a close eye on everyone and everything, but were allowing traffic to proceed unimpeded.
FWIW, I rode from Monroe Harbor to the Addison Pedway at about 11:30 last night. There were bikes and pedestrians on the path along with several strategically placed CPD SUVs. The LEOs apperead to be keeping a close eye on everyone and everything, but were allowing traffic to proceed unimpeded. I agree that the best course…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-30:2211490:Comment:3681802011-06-30T14:18:30.375ZDavohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DaveMicek
I agree that the best course of action is to be plesent and cooporative to the police, but if an officer is being overly rude to you, it is your right to ask for their name and badge number.<br></br><br></br><cite>Anne Alt said:</cite>
<blockquote><div><p><em>So any time we have occasion to encounter a policeperson try to be nice, try to be understanding and don't argue.</em></p>
<p>They really appreciate when people respond reasonably, with courtesy. In the course of a day, they often deal with a lot…</p>
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I agree that the best course of action is to be plesent and cooporative to the police, but if an officer is being overly rude to you, it is your right to ask for their name and badge number.<br/><br/><cite>Anne Alt said:</cite>
<blockquote><div><p><em>So any time we have occasion to encounter a policeperson try to be nice, try to be understanding and don't argue.</em></p>
<p>They really appreciate when people respond reasonably, with courtesy. In the course of a day, they often deal with a lot of people who are being <em>anything but reasonable.</em></p>
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<p><em>And for some reason don't ask for their name and/or badge number as they really hate that.</em></p>
<p>Because they assume it's going to mean a formal complaint or a lawsuit. Who would be happy about that?</p>
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</blockquote> Those with all the guns, the …tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-30:2211490:Comment:3682772011-06-30T14:03:43.892ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>Those with all the guns, the official badges, and the special hats of authority don't like uncooperative sheep. The uncooperative sheep are the ones they come down hard on as it makes their jobs harder.</p>
<p>Those with all the guns, the official badges, and the special hats of authority don't like uncooperative sheep. The uncooperative sheep are the ones they come down hard on as it makes their jobs harder.</p> So any time we have occasion…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-30:2211490:Comment:3681732011-06-30T12:49:34.644ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p><em>So any time we have occasion to encounter a policeperson try to be nice, try to be understanding and don't argue.</em></p>
<p>They really appreciate when people respond reasonably, with courtesy. In the course of a day, they often deal with a lot of people who are being <em>anything but reasonable.</em></p>
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<p><em>And for some reason don't ask for their name and/or badge number as they really hate that.</em></p>
<p>Because they assume it's going to mean a formal complaint or a…</p>
<p><em>So any time we have occasion to encounter a policeperson try to be nice, try to be understanding and don't argue.</em></p>
<p>They really appreciate when people respond reasonably, with courtesy. In the course of a day, they often deal with a lot of people who are being <em>anything but reasonable.</em></p>
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<p><em>And for some reason don't ask for their name and/or badge number as they really hate that.</em></p>
<p>Because they assume it's going to mean a formal complaint or a lawsuit. Who would be happy about that?</p>
<p> </p> Well as a voice from the othe…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-30:2211490:Comment:3675742011-06-30T00:26:23.588ZJeff Markushttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JeffMarkus
<p>Well as a voice from the other side (opinion wise not the undead) there are several reasonable conditions that make it a (from their view) requirement to clear the lakefront, including the path.</p>
<p>These reasons all involve the police's NEED to control those areas they cannot patrol. A person (pedestrian or bicyclist) in the park after closing is in the eyes of the law officer either a perpetrator or a victim. The police don't have the manpower or incentive to proterct those that decide…</p>
<p>Well as a voice from the other side (opinion wise not the undead) there are several reasonable conditions that make it a (from their view) requirement to clear the lakefront, including the path.</p>
<p>These reasons all involve the police's NEED to control those areas they cannot patrol. A person (pedestrian or bicyclist) in the park after closing is in the eyes of the law officer either a perpetrator or a victim. The police don't have the manpower or incentive to proterct those that decide to dabble in the wild side and play in a kill zone. When the law withdraws from an area anyone in that zone is unprotected and could be at the mercy of the criminals that also inhabit the area.</p>
<p>While the Chicago Police have a habit to come off a bit (yeah so a bit is understated a bit) rude they do this to avoid 'discussions' that they do not feel like opening since to them they are right.</p>
<p>I understand their point and vehemently disagree with their methods (and wish our lakefront could be 'open and free' 24/7). The Chicago Police have always thought that 'sensitivity' is an umanly (yes they are also sexist...even many of the females officers) but they labor under the conception that all the 'citizens' don't respect them and that drives their behavior.</p>
<p>So any time we have occasion to encounter a policeperson try to be nice, try to be understanding and don't argue. And for some reason don't ask for their name and/or badge number as they really hate that.</p>
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<p>The Chicagoan</p> Sounds like a plan to me!
Je…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-29:2211490:Comment:3671282011-06-29T20:36:37.917ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
Sounds like a plan to me!<br></br>
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<cite>Jennifer said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/lakefront-trail-now-officially?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A367273&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment367273"><div>Hey, let's close the Drive from 11pm to 6am and let people bike on it. Problem solved!…<br></br> <br></br><br></br></div>
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Sounds like a plan to me!<br/>
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<cite>Jennifer said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/lakefront-trail-now-officially?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A367273&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment367273"><div>Hey, let's close the Drive from 11pm to 6am and let people bike on it. Problem solved!<br/> <br/><br/>
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That is ridiculous.…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-29:2211490:Comment:3668712011-06-29T20:28:07.597ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>6AM???</p>
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<p>That is ridiculous. I bet a lot of commuters have to be at work by 7 and that includes showering and changing.</p>
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<p>Why don't we just close the Kennedy from 11PM to 6AM too?</p>
<p>6AM???</p>
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<p>That is ridiculous. I bet a lot of commuters have to be at work by 7 and that includes showering and changing.</p>
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<p>Why don't we just close the Kennedy from 11PM to 6AM too?</p> The Lakefront path has always…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-29:2211490:Comment:3671242011-06-29T20:26:00.793ZWaymond Smithhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/WaymondSmith
The Lakefront path has always closed at 11:00 p.m., but <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">some</span></strong> police officers would make you get off, however some used their judgement to allow you continue to your destination. The path opens officially at 6:00 a.m., I never had a problem in the mornings.<br></br>
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<cite>in it to win it said:</cite><br />
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The Lakefront path has always closed at 11:00 p.m., but <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">some</span></strong> police officers would make you get off, however some used their judgement to allow you continue to your destination. The path opens officially at 6:00 a.m., I never had a problem in the mornings.<br/>
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<cite>in it to win it said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/lakefront-trail-now-officially#2211490Comment365976"><div><p>What time does it theoretically open in the morning?</p>
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</blockquote> They are transporting themsel…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-29:2211490:Comment:3671222011-06-29T19:48:48.744ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>They are transporting themselves from point A to point C. As long as they are just passing through point B then they are engaged in transportation rather than loitering.</p>
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<p>Either that or NewFred can apply definition 2 ;)</p>
<p>They are transporting themselves from point A to point C. As long as they are just passing through point B then they are engaged in transportation rather than loitering.</p>
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<p>Either that or NewFred can apply definition 2 ;)</p> Definition of TRANSPORTATION…tag:thechainlink.org,2011-06-29:2211490:Comment:3668662011-06-29T19:31:33.351ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
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<div class="scnt"><b><span class="ssens"><strong>:</strong> an act, process, or instance of <a class="formulaic" href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transporting">transporting</a> or being …</span></b></div>
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<div class="scnt"><b><span class="ssens"><strong>:</strong> an act, process, or instance of <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transporting" class="formulaic">transporting</a> or being <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transported" class="formulaic">transported</a></span></b></div>
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<div class="scnt"><b><span class="ssens"><strong>:</strong> banishment to a penal colony</span></b></div>
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<div class="scnt"><b><span class="ssens"><em class="sn">a</em> <strong>:</strong> means of conveyance or travel from one place to another</span><span class="ssens"><em class="sn">b</em> <strong>:</strong> public conveyance of passengers or goods especially as a commercial enterprise</span></b></div>
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<div class="r">— <strong>trans·por·ta·tion·al</strong> <em>adjective</em></div>
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