Just me Ranting - The Chainlink2024-03-28T12:17:20Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548208&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI am accusing you of bitching…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5482082012-05-18T20:09:42.709ZDoug Hayneshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DougHaynes
<p>I am accusing you of bitching because that is what you were doing; you were complaining about there not being enough bikeways in Chicago and that what we have over what we had before is not enough. </p>
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<p>That is pretty much by definition bitching about it.</p>
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<p>You want to take your ball and go home I guess that is your right but it is pretty silly to do so just because people have disagreed with you. Life must be very hard of you are this fragile in real life.…<br></br></p>
<p>I am accusing you of bitching because that is what you were doing; you were complaining about there not being enough bikeways in Chicago and that what we have over what we had before is not enough. </p>
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<p>That is pretty much by definition bitching about it.</p>
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<p>You want to take your ball and go home I guess that is your right but it is pretty silly to do so just because people have disagreed with you. Life must be very hard of you are this fragile in real life.<br/> <br/> <cite>Michael J Blane said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?x=1&id=2211490%3ATopic%3A547467&page=1#2211490Comment548190"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Irony people ... IRONY</p>
<p>I merely intended to share some information and a few of my comments.</p>
<p>Wow, I never thought that my comments would stir so many emotions.</p>
<p>I haven't even started bitching or complaining.</p>
<p>Dug, what are you accusing me of? I thought that maybe the article that I linked to might start a discussion, not anger and me being said to be bitching about something.</p>
<p>If the purpose of your comments was to shut me up or drive me away, you've succeeded.</p>
<p>Good Bye.</p>
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</blockquote> Oh good lord you don't have t…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5483892012-05-18T17:42:16.783ZGort 12-mile Pinklegneephttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PeenwormGrubologist
<p>Oh good lord you don't have to be all taking your ball and going home. Dug's post was pretty mild imo, and if you wanted to start a discussion, it can go places that disagree with you. Otherwise why try to start a discussion? A "rant" about how Chicago doesn't have enough non-road bike paths can raise some hackles among anyone who knows the history of cycling, roads, and statistics regarding bike safety.</p>
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<p>The Chicago Wheelmen were the first people to lobby for paved streets,…</p>
<p>Oh good lord you don't have to be all taking your ball and going home. Dug's post was pretty mild imo, and if you wanted to start a discussion, it can go places that disagree with you. Otherwise why try to start a discussion? A "rant" about how Chicago doesn't have enough non-road bike paths can raise some hackles among anyone who knows the history of cycling, roads, and statistics regarding bike safety.</p>
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<p>The Chicago Wheelmen were the first people to lobby for paved streets, for bikes. Bikes were on the streets first. Perhaps the biggest predictor of how safe it'd be to ride a bike in a city is how many other bikes are using the streets. Chicago's apparently rated the number one large city for cycling in the US and has put in quite a bit of effort toward making a lot of arterial streets multi-use</p>
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<p>Six and a half miles of off-street path is pretty nice, I should think, and bemoaning the woeful state of Chicago's bicycle infrastructure because it only has that large path and the lakefront path and the boulevards seems pretty silly. As for not being welcome on the streets, the more bikes are on them, the more welcome bikes are. Be the change in the so on and so on, etc.</p> Irony people ... IRONY
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<p>Irony people ... IRONY</p>
<p>I merely intended to share some information and a few of my comments.</p>
<p>Wow, I never thought that my comments would stir so many emotions.</p>
<p>I haven't even started bitching or complaining.</p>
<p>Dug, what are you accusing me of? I thought that maybe the article that I linked to might start a discussion, not anger and me being said to be bitching about something.</p>
<p>If the purpose of your comments was to shut me up or drive me away, you've…</p>
<p>Irony people ... IRONY</p>
<p>I merely intended to share some information and a few of my comments.</p>
<p>Wow, I never thought that my comments would stir so many emotions.</p>
<p>I haven't even started bitching or complaining.</p>
<p>Dug, what are you accusing me of? I thought that maybe the article that I linked to might start a discussion, not anger and me being said to be bitching about something.</p>
<p>If the purpose of your comments was to shut me up or drive me away, you've succeeded.</p>
<p>Good Bye.</p> If only we could get the many…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5481572012-05-18T14:08:37.195ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>If only we could get the many sidewalk riders out on the street.</p>
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<p>I see folks riding on the sidewalks even next to well-established bike lanes (not just sharrows) so WTF?</p>
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<p>Bike lanes are nice -but I feel that eventually we will be told to stay on our "special sidewalks" and our right to use the road proper will be curtailed. It's a very touchy subject and I agree with Dug on this one. The roads our OURS -why should we give them up?</p>
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<p>TAKE them…</p>
<p>If only we could get the many sidewalk riders out on the street.</p>
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<p>I see folks riding on the sidewalks even next to well-established bike lanes (not just sharrows) so WTF?</p>
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<p>Bike lanes are nice -but I feel that eventually we will be told to stay on our "special sidewalks" and our right to use the road proper will be curtailed. It's a very touchy subject and I agree with Dug on this one. The roads our OURS -why should we give them up?</p>
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<p>TAKE them back.<br/> <br/> <cite>notoriousDUG said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A547970&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment547970"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>No, there would not be a need for bikeways if we belonged on the street but what does that have to do with you bitching about the addition of new bikeways not being enough bikeways?</p>
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<p>Maybe you can start complaining about them being there vs. us being welcome on the road or som other form of looking the gift horse in the mouth.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Michael J Blane said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting#2211490Comment547865"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>We're allowed on the streets, we are not welcome and there are many that say we don't belong on the streets.</p>
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<p>If we truly belonged on the streets, would there be any need for bikeways?<br/> <br/> <cite>notoriousDUG said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548147&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment547890"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I guess we could sit here an bemoan the fact that there are only 6.5 miles of bikeways or we could be happy that we have any.</p>
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<p>We could also work on the fact that we belong on the street, any and every street, regardless of bikeways.</p>
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</blockquote> No, there would not be a need…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5479702012-05-18T14:03:35.270ZDoug Hayneshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DougHaynes
<p>No, there would not be a need for bikeways if we belonged on the street but what does that have to do with you bitching about the addition of new bikeways not being enough bikeways?</p>
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<p>Maybe you can start complaining about them being there vs. us being welcome on the road or som other form of looking the gift horse in the mouth.</p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Michael J Blane said:…</cite></p>
<p>No, there would not be a need for bikeways if we belonged on the street but what does that have to do with you bitching about the addition of new bikeways not being enough bikeways?</p>
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<p>Maybe you can start complaining about them being there vs. us being welcome on the road or som other form of looking the gift horse in the mouth.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Michael J Blane said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting#2211490Comment547865"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>We're allowed on the streets, we are not welcome and there are many that say we don't belong on the streets.</p>
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<p>If we truly belonged on the streets, would there be any need for bikeways?<br/> <br/> <cite>notoriousDUG said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548147&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment547890"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I guess we could sit here an bemoan the fact that there are only 6.5 miles of bikeways or we could be happy that we have any.</p>
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<p>We could also work on the fact that we belong on the street, any and every street, regardless of bikeways.</p>
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</blockquote> Maybe a strategically-placed…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5481812012-05-18T13:52:40.009ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>Maybe a strategically-placed boathouse could block the Bloomingdale Trail from heading any further East...</p>
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<p>Check, & Mate!</p>
<p>Maybe a strategically-placed boathouse could block the Bloomingdale Trail from heading any further East...</p>
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<p>Check, & Mate!</p> I like the boathouse idea, if…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5481802012-05-18T13:46:46.961ZMichael J Blanehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MichaelJBlane
<p>I like the boathouse idea, if the Bloomingdale Trail went a little further east, like to the river; that would be way cool.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>James BlackHeron said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548147&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment548147"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Looks like a good place to build a boathouse then?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Peenworm Grubologist said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I like the boathouse idea, if the Bloomingdale Trail went a little further east, like to the river; that would be way cool.<br/> <br/> <cite>James BlackHeron said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548147&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment548147"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Looks like a good place to build a boathouse then?<br/> <br/> <cite>Peenworm Grubologist said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A547846&x=1#2211490Comment547846"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Bloomingdale trail looks nice, but it also runs right next to another, longer bike route, Armitage Avenue.</p>
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<p>Ironic, isn't it ...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/05/the-next-great-technology-platform-the-bicycle/257252/" target="_blank">http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/05/the-next-great-technology-platform-the-bicycle/257252/</a><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Adam Herstein said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Ironic, isn't it ...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/05/the-next-great-technology-platform-the-bicycle/257252/" target="_blank">http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/05/the-next-great-technology-platform-the-bicycle/257252/</a><br/> <br/> <cite>Adam Herstein said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548147&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment548121"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Uhh, bicycles have been around for over 100 years. How exactly are they the next great technology, again? It's not like bicycles are anything new.</p>
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</blockquote> We're allowed on the streets,…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5478652012-05-18T13:44:18.819ZMichael J Blanehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MichaelJBlane
<p>We're allowed on the streets, we are not welcome and there are many that say we don't belong on the streets.</p>
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<p>If we truly belonged on the streets, would there be any need for bikeways?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>notoriousDUG said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548147&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment547890"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I guess we could sit here an bemoan the fact that…</p>
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<p>We're allowed on the streets, we are not welcome and there are many that say we don't belong on the streets.</p>
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<p>If we truly belonged on the streets, would there be any need for bikeways?<br/> <br/> <cite>notoriousDUG said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A548147&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment547890"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I guess we could sit here an bemoan the fact that there are only 6.5 miles of bikeways or we could be happy that we have any.</p>
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<p>We could also work on the fact that we belong on the street, any and every street, regardless of bikeways.</p>
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</blockquote> Looks like a good place to bu…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-05-18:2211490:Comment:5481472012-05-18T13:06:01.834ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>Looks like a good place to build a boathouse then?<br/> <br/> <cite>Peenworm Grubologist said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/just-me-ranting?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A547846&x=1#2211490Comment547846"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Bloomingdale trail looks nice, but it also runs right next to another, longer bike route, Armitage Avenue.</p>
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<p>Looks like a good place to build a boathouse then?<br/> <br/> <cite>Peenworm Grubologist said:</cite></p>
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