Jogging in the Dearborn PBL - The Chainlink2024-03-28T20:54:06Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738724&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDaniel G said:
I agree. Someb…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-08:2211490:Comment:7387352013-08-08T13:03:43.407ZSkip Montanaro 0mihttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SkipMontanaro92
<p><cite>Daniel G said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738458&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment738458"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I agree. Somebody running 10MPH ...</p>
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<div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>... is running pretty damn fast. :-) (six-minute miles)<br/><br/></p>
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<p><cite>Daniel G said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738458&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2211490Comment738458"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I agree. Somebody running 10MPH ...</p>
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<div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>... is running pretty damn fast. :-) (six-minute miles)<br/><br/></p>
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</div> This is an excellent argument…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-08:2211490:Comment:7386582013-08-08T11:51:30.073ZBezhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Bez
This is an excellent argument <br></br>
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<cite>Daniel G said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738458&x=1#2211490Comment738458"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The more humans out on the street supporting their own weight, the better for us all.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>h' 1.0 said:…</cite></p>
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This is an excellent argument <br/>
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<cite>Daniel G said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?page=2&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738458&x=1#2211490Comment738458"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The more humans out on the street supporting their own weight, the better for us all.<br/> <br/> <cite>h' 1.0 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl#2211490Comment738685"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Depends on whether they're running with or against the flow, and how fast they're going.</p>
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</blockquote> It can be annoying to go arou…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7387242013-08-07T23:28:01.126ZLizhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Liz657
<p>It can be annoying to go around joggers in the bike lanes, that said when I'm a pedestrian on busy downtown sidewalk sections, I find the joggers weaving between pedestrians much more annoying than passing them on bike. </p>
<p>It can be annoying to go around joggers in the bike lanes, that said when I'm a pedestrian on busy downtown sidewalk sections, I find the joggers weaving between pedestrians much more annoying than passing them on bike. </p> Thank you! Mike Keating said…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7384412013-08-07T21:45:10.887ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>Thank you!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Mike Keating said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl#2211490Comment738636"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The thing about a bike lane, as opposed to a city street, is that ONLY bikes are intended and permitted users of the bike lane. A city street is (the cities argue) intended for motor vehicles and bicycles are merely <em>permitted.</em> But I would argue that there is a very clear…</p>
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<p>Thank you!<br/> <br/> <cite>Mike Keating said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl#2211490Comment738636"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The thing about a bike lane, as opposed to a city street, is that ONLY bikes are intended and permitted users of the bike lane. A city street is (the cities argue) intended for motor vehicles and bicycles are merely <em>permitted.</em> But I would argue that there is a very clear distinction with the bike lane where it is very, very specifically for bikes only. <br/> <br/> <cite>Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738605&x=1#2211490Comment738487"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I don't think there is any law that prohibits it. I see people running in the car lanes on neighborhood streets fairly often. It is safe to say that a runner/pedestrian using the traffic lane is not an "intended and permitted user" of a bike lane or street.<br/> </p>
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</blockquote> The thing about a bike lane,…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7386362013-08-07T21:40:58.985ZMike Keatinghttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MikeKeating
<p>The thing about a bike lane, as opposed to a city street, is that ONLY bikes are intended and permitted users of the bike lane. A city street is (the cities argue) intended for motor vehicles and bicycles are merely <em>permitted.</em> But I would argue that there is a very clear distinction with the bike lane where it is very, very specifically for bikes only. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:…</cite></p>
<p>The thing about a bike lane, as opposed to a city street, is that ONLY bikes are intended and permitted users of the bike lane. A city street is (the cities argue) intended for motor vehicles and bicycles are merely <em>permitted.</em> But I would argue that there is a very clear distinction with the bike lane where it is very, very specifically for bikes only. <br/> <br/> <cite>Lisa Curcio 6.5 mi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738605&x=1#2211490Comment738487"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I don't think there is any law that prohibits it. I see people running in the car lanes on neighborhood streets fairly often. It is safe to say that a runner/pedestrian using the traffic lane is not an "intended and permitted user" of a bike lane or street.<br/> <br/> <cite>Skip Montanaro 12mi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738575&x=1#2211490Comment738575"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>A biking buddy of mine here at work contends that running in the street is illegal when a sidewalk is available. I assume bike lanes qualify as "streets" here...</p>
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</blockquote> I have also seen more on Kinz…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7386052013-08-07T17:39:14.879ZElizabeth M.https://thechainlink.org/profile/ElizabethMurphy
<p>I have also seen more on Kinzie than Dearborn and it is obnoxious. Especially because the ones I've encountered are running with the flow of traffic while wearing earbuds so they can neither see nor hear you. </p>
<p>I have also seen more on Kinzie than Dearborn and it is obnoxious. Especially because the ones I've encountered are running with the flow of traffic while wearing earbuds so they can neither see nor hear you. </p> Depends on whether they're ru…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7386852013-08-07T17:35:58.413Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>Depends on whether they're running with or against the flow, and how fast they're going.</p>
<p>Depends on whether they're running with or against the flow, and how fast they're going.</p> Well, my buddy referred me to…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7383992013-08-07T17:33:12.455ZSkip Montanaro 0mihttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SkipMontanaro92
<p>Well, my buddy referred me to this page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/cdot/supp_info/ordinances_pertainingtopedestrians.html">http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/cdot/supp_info/ordinances_pertainingtopedestrians.html</a></p>
<p>You kind of have to read the whole thing to get the overall gist of what pertains to what, but section 9-60-080, though worded strangely, suggests that walking in the street when there are other options available is a…</p>
<p>Well, my buddy referred me to this page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/cdot/supp_info/ordinances_pertainingtopedestrians.html">http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/cdot/supp_info/ordinances_pertainingtopedestrians.html</a></p>
<p>You kind of have to read the whole thing to get the overall gist of what pertains to what, but section 9-60-080, though worded strangely, suggests that walking in the street when there are other options available is a no-no.</p>
<p>I particularly liked section 9-60-060. I always feel safer when my right angels are around. :-)</p>
<p></p> I don't think there is any la…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7384872013-08-07T16:47:13.330ZLisa Curciohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LisaCurcio
<p>I don't think there is any law that prohibits it. I see people running in the car lanes on neighborhood streets fairly often. It is safe to say that a runner/pedestrian using the traffic lane is not an "intended and permitted user" of a bike lane or street.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Skip Montanaro 12mi said:…</cite></p>
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<p>I don't think there is any law that prohibits it. I see people running in the car lanes on neighborhood streets fairly often. It is safe to say that a runner/pedestrian using the traffic lane is not an "intended and permitted user" of a bike lane or street.<br/> <br/> <cite>Skip Montanaro 12mi said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/jogging-in-the-dearborn-pbl?page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A738575&x=1#2211490Comment738575"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>A biking buddy of mine here at work contends that running in the street is illegal when a sidewalk is available. I assume bike lanes qualify as "streets" here...</p>
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</blockquote> A biking buddy of mine here a…tag:thechainlink.org,2013-08-07:2211490:Comment:7385752013-08-07T15:19:42.446ZSkip Montanaro 0mihttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SkipMontanaro92
<p>A biking buddy of mine here at work contends that running in the street is illegal when a sidewalk is available. I assume bike lanes qualify as "streets" here...</p>
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<p>A biking buddy of mine here at work contends that running in the street is illegal when a sidewalk is available. I assume bike lanes qualify as "streets" here...</p>
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