Interesting technology to crack down on distracted driving - The Chainlink2024-03-28T12:32:17Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/interesting-technology-to-crack-down-on-distracted-driving?feed=yes&xn_auth=noSadly, that doesn't stop a lo…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-05-01:2211490:Comment:10529902017-05-01T16:08:57.038Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>Sadly, that doesn't stop a lot of cops.</p>
<p>Sadly, that doesn't stop a lot of cops.</p> Unconstitutional to do this w…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-05-01:2211490:Comment:10528422017-05-01T15:34:50.954ZMauricehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Maurice
Unconstitutional to do this without a warrant.
Unconstitutional to do this without a warrant. It's like the nose of the cam…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-04-30:2211490:Comment:10527382017-04-30T22:44:51.669Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>It's like the nose of the camel under the tent flap...</p>
<p>It's like the nose of the camel under the tent flap...</p> If the device can analyze you…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-04-30:2211490:Comment:10527262017-04-30T01:42:44.999ZShttps://thechainlink.org/profile/s2485df
<p>If the device can analyze your most recent texts, it can almostly certainly grab all your texts. It might even be able to capture your emails, contacts, and other information (quite possibly including your health records, financial info, etc.). Given the abuses that we've seen by the government, I think handing all of that over to the police and expecting them to limit themselves to a text or two is naive.</p>
<p>If the device can analyze your most recent texts, it can almostly certainly grab all your texts. It might even be able to capture your emails, contacts, and other information (quite possibly including your health records, financial info, etc.). Given the abuses that we've seen by the government, I think handing all of that over to the police and expecting them to limit themselves to a text or two is naive.</p> You technically can't be comp…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-04-20:2211490:Comment:10515742017-04-20T19:02:33.997Zadhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AdrianRohrer
<p>You technically can't be compelled to take a BAC test (at least without being placed under arrest) without a warrant. If you refuse, however, state law allows the suspension of your driving privileges as a consequence. Now, we could do the same thing for a textalizer test for texting and driving for sure, but I do think it'll be a harder sell for privacy advocates. For one thing, with regards to BAC, it's generally perceived as a rather minimal invasion that is "fair" to most people that…</p>
<p>You technically can't be compelled to take a BAC test (at least without being placed under arrest) without a warrant. If you refuse, however, state law allows the suspension of your driving privileges as a consequence. Now, we could do the same thing for a textalizer test for texting and driving for sure, but I do think it'll be a harder sell for privacy advocates. For one thing, with regards to BAC, it's generally perceived as a rather minimal invasion that is "fair" to most people that your driving privileges can be stripped for refusing, as the only "privacy" right you're really protecting by refusing a BAC test is your right against self incrimination (you're either legally drunk, or you're not, and the test doesn't reveal anything else to police). </p>
<p>However, providing a device to police that allows them to hack through whatever security has been established on a phone (something Apple refused to do for law enforcement even when terrorism was at issue) to determine who and when you've sent texts presents much, much deeper privacy issues to many people. It's a pretty heavy invasion of a traditional notion of privacy based solely on the possibility of illegal conduct, and is a pretty huge amount of power to hand police absent a traditional warrant. </p> Checking a 'phone after a cra…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-04-20:2211490:Comment:10514402017-04-20T18:49:36.663Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>Checking a 'phone after a crash is simply a matter of pulling phone records (preferably w/ a warrant) from the carrier. i'm sure it is faster and less invasive than taking a BAC, but i'm leery of the potential abuses. i'm for requiring a warrant to search a 'phone's OS.</p>
<p>i'm guessing that in many cases the matter would be moot due to destruction of the device in the crash.</p>
<p>Checking a 'phone after a crash is simply a matter of pulling phone records (preferably w/ a warrant) from the carrier. i'm sure it is faster and less invasive than taking a BAC, but i'm leery of the potential abuses. i'm for requiring a warrant to search a 'phone's OS.</p>
<p>i'm guessing that in many cases the matter would be moot due to destruction of the device in the crash.</p> I am sure you are correct abo…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-04-20:2211490:Comment:10514342017-04-20T18:32:04.887ZSteve Fietehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SteveFiete
<p>I am sure you are correct about that. However, checking a phone after a crash is much less invasive than checking blood-alcohol content. If the privacy advocates got over that, then they can get over this.</p>
<p>I am sure you are correct about that. However, checking a phone after a crash is much less invasive than checking blood-alcohol content. If the privacy advocates got over that, then they can get over this.</p> Privacy advocates have a big…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-04-20:2211490:Comment:10512712017-04-20T18:18:09.754Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>Privacy advocates have a big problem with this. i'm all for cracking down on cell 'phone/texting use behind the wheel, but the technology will permit abuses in the hands of a police force not known for its respect of civil rights and liberties.</p>
<p>Privacy advocates have a big problem with this. i'm all for cracking down on cell 'phone/texting use behind the wheel, but the technology will permit abuses in the hands of a police force not known for its respect of civil rights and liberties.</p>