I've had it with the right hook - The Chainlink2024-03-29T07:49:57Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/i-ve-had-it-with-the-right-hook?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A1108573&feed=yes&xn_auth=noi'm not entirely sure that th…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-29:2211490:Comment:11088012018-10-29T04:34:03.423Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>i'm not entirely sure that the rider ever saw the turn signal. Sometimes while riding at speed, one tends to have tunnel vision. He was probably only aware that the car was overtaking him, depending on his peripheral vision while keeping this eyes on the road surface and concentrating on holding his line. It looks to me that the driver underestimated the speed of the rider and overestimated the distance between them as they started to turn.</p>
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<p>i'm not entirely sure that the rider ever saw the turn signal. Sometimes while riding at speed, one tends to have tunnel vision. He was probably only aware that the car was overtaking him, depending on his peripheral vision while keeping this eyes on the road surface and concentrating on holding his line. It looks to me that the driver underestimated the speed of the rider and overestimated the distance between them as they started to turn.</p>
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Driver s…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-29:2211490:Comment:11087982018-10-29T01:48:07.146ZFran Kondorfhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/FranKondorf
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<p> Driver signaled their intent to turn right. That would tell me to slow down, take a look and likely swerve into the lane left and go around them. Or, you know, perhaps just stop if need be. (Crazy, I know, right?)</p>
<p> It's not a velodrome, it's a public road. Lance was in the drops and didn't really slow until it was too late to correct for his momentum and the change in conditions. </p>
<p> Hazards are a near-constant everywhere and our survival is job #1 at…</p>
<p>Re; Tom AK's video-</p>
<p> Driver signaled their intent to turn right. That would tell me to slow down, take a look and likely swerve into the lane left and go around them. Or, you know, perhaps just stop if need be. (Crazy, I know, right?)</p>
<p> It's not a velodrome, it's a public road. Lance was in the drops and didn't really slow until it was too late to correct for his momentum and the change in conditions. </p>
<p> Hazards are a near-constant everywhere and our survival is job #1 at all times. I truly wish it didn't have to be this way but it's a sad fact of the life we chose as bicyclists.</p>
<p> Statistics prove that intersections are where the majority of collisions occur. So, why not live to ride another day?</p> Made the mistake of reading t…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-29:2211490:Comment:11087972018-10-29T00:52:53.327Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>Made the mistake of reading the comments... i recommend skipping them.</p>
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<p>Made the mistake of reading the comments... i recommend skipping them.</p>
<p></p> oh oy! Geesh!
tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-28:2211490:Comment:11087582018-10-28T23:32:32.478ZErnesto Lubehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErnestoLube
<p>oh oy! Geesh!</p>
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<p>oh oy! Geesh!</p>
<p> </p> https://youtu.be/1yVFmAilK9U …tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-28:2211490:Comment:11087862018-10-28T17:14:05.569ZTom A.K.https://thechainlink.org/profile/TomKrystyn
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/1yVFmAilK9U" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/1yVFmAilK9U</a> (1:37)</p>
<p>Stay away from clueless drivers like this. </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/1yVFmAilK9U" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/1yVFmAilK9U</a> (1:37)</p>
<p>Stay away from clueless drivers like this. </p> Curious as to how many of tho…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-28:2211490:Comment:11085542018-10-28T15:57:52.525ZBikeScnhookhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SeanCourtney
<p>Curious as to how many of those truckers used turn signals.</p>
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<p>Curious as to how many of those truckers used turn signals.</p>
<p></p> Video from Mass Bike, 'Protec…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-28:2211490:Comment:11085512018-10-28T08:20:52.918ZTom A.K.https://thechainlink.org/profile/TomKrystyn
<p>Video from Mass Bike, 'Protect yourself from right-turning vehicles' (2:45)</p>
<p><a href="https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154590449688084&id=823518083&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.919988014706874&__tn__=%2As" target="_blank">https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154590449688084&id=823518083&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.919988014706874&__tn__=%2As</a></p>
<p>Video from Mass Bike, 'Protect yourself from right-turning vehicles' (2:45)</p>
<p><a href="https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154590449688084&id=823518083&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.919988014706874&__tn__=%2As" target="_blank">https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154590449688084&id=823518083&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.919988014706874&__tn__=%2As</a></p> You mean like this, which I h…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-27:2211490:Comment:11084702018-10-27T23:35:49.827ZBikeScnhookhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SeanCourtney
<p>You mean like this, which I had to deal with last night?</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHFMAyRzTg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHFMAyRzTg</a></p>
<p>You mean like this, which I had to deal with last night?</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHFMAyRzTg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHFMAyRzTg</a></p> Yeah... like this morning, a…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-25:2211490:Comment:11084522018-10-25T20:36:17.066ZErnesto Lubehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErnestoLube
<p>Yeah... like this morning, a small SUV with an Old St. Mary's decal on the back (now I know they are not so holy) was going north on Wabash. It started to slow down from traffic that had stopped at the light on Wabash and 14th... no blinker, just a sudden jerking at the wheel as I was passing them on the bike lane. I swerved so I wouldn't get hit on my left side. I got honked at and I just waved. Entitlement. </p>
<p>Yeah... like this morning, a small SUV with an Old St. Mary's decal on the back (now I know they are not so holy) was going north on Wabash. It started to slow down from traffic that had stopped at the light on Wabash and 14th... no blinker, just a sudden jerking at the wheel as I was passing them on the bike lane. I swerved so I wouldn't get hit on my left side. I got honked at and I just waved. Entitlement. </p> In my experience this is actu…tag:thechainlink.org,2018-10-24:2211490:Comment:11085022018-10-24T16:44:37.301ZCarter O'Brienhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/CarterOBrien
<p>In my experience this is actually more of the rule than the exception when it comes to both intersections close to highway access, as well as where on-ramps themselves break up the sidewalk.</p>
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<p>It's just sick. IDOT continues to fight every reasonable bike/ped safety improvement in these cases, claiming that "access" to the highway trumps all. One of the more interesting dynamics I'm seeing right now is related to the Belmont Blue Line work. The westbound Belmont bus can't turn…</p>
<p>In my experience this is actually more of the rule than the exception when it comes to both intersections close to highway access, as well as where on-ramps themselves break up the sidewalk.</p>
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<p>It's just sick. IDOT continues to fight every reasonable bike/ped safety improvement in these cases, claiming that "access" to the highway trumps all. One of the more interesting dynamics I'm seeing right now is related to the Belmont Blue Line work. The westbound Belmont bus can't turn into the terminal to drop off and pick up, so it is using a temporary stop on the west side of Kimball. The immediate result I've seen is that with a critical mass of people needing to cross Belmont and Kimball to get to the subway, motorists have actually been forced to respect the traffic signals and pedestrian right-of-way. Combined with the bus itself not mucking up traffic in all directions as it makes several sharp left turns, this has ed to the larger intersection being much more mellow and pleasant to navigate. It is very unfortunate it's temporary, as apparently CTA, CDOT and IDOT are completely unable to behave cooperatively to serve the greater good.</p>