I agree with all of this with the exception of knowing first hand about the old wheels.
mike w. said:
i think the finer points of this discussion is what constitutes "true." When i was wrenching, we considered two standards: Commercially true and Racing true.
Most riders got along fine with Commercially true: the wheel passes the brake pads without too noticable side wobble or hops. Most of the rims in that era (early 70's) weren't that precisely made and many had horrendous seam welds or pin joints.
Racing true was the precise build: High quality rims (99% were tubulars, the lightweight 700c clinchers weren't really widely available yet,) High-end hubs (Campag NR was the gold standard,) and Stella or Robrigel DB spokes. They were strictly for racing.
Almost no one had let alone used a tension meter. Our builder was an artisan. i had a few pairs of her wheels. Wish i still had 'em. i'm pretty sure they're still running true.
The rims etc, available now are so much better, and build up and stay much truer from the get-go, but i don't really think most riders would recognise the difference between commercially and racing true. This arguement approaches theological territory...
i'm sure the major players in this discussion build fine wheels. i'd be happy to give either my business if i needed to, but i've been content to just build my own for all these years. Sure, they may not be ultra-precise builds, but they've held up pretty well if i do say so myself.
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Patrick Doherty said: