Hand Built Wheels by Well Spoked - The Chainlink2024-03-29T11:23:45Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A606269&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNo my boss has a personal fri…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6072012012-10-16T19:27:17.599ZPatrick Dohertyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PatrickDoherty
No my boss has a personal friend who is also a good wheel builder who he prefers to give business to although when he is busy or ocasionally sick I take over but we still dont do it there, I take them home.
No my boss has a personal friend who is also a good wheel builder who he prefers to give business to although when he is busy or ocasionally sick I take over but we still dont do it there, I take them home. We take in wheels but we send…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6068502012-10-16T15:36:57.816ZPatrick Dohertyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PatrickDoherty
We take in wheels but we send them somewhere else to be built.
We take in wheels but we send them somewhere else to be built. Your shops website says they…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6070392012-10-16T14:44:29.642ZDoug Hayneshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DougHaynes
<p>Your shops website says they build wheels...<br/> <br/> <cite>Patrick Doherty said:</cite></p>
<div><div class="xg_user_generated"><br/> As for why we don't build in house that is not my decision to make its the owners.</div>
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<p>Your shops website says they build wheels...<br/> <br/> <cite>Patrick Doherty said:</cite></p>
<div><div class="xg_user_generated"><br/> As for why we don't build in house that is not my decision to make its the owners.</div>
</div> Nobody has ever even MET me.…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6070382012-10-16T14:14:59.425ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>Nobody has ever even MET me. I've been told that I don't exist...</p>
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<p>Nobody has ever even MET me. I've been told that I don't exist...</p>
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<p>I'm a bot.</p> I agree with all of this with…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6067632012-10-16T02:28:29.740ZDoug Hayneshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DougHaynes
<p>I agree with all of this with the exception of knowing first hand about the old wheels.<br></br><br></br><cite>mike w. said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A606912&x=1#2211490Comment606912"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>i think the finer points of this discussion is what constitutes "true." When i was wrenching, we considered two standards: Commercially true and Racing…</p>
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<p>I agree with all of this with the exception of knowing first hand about the old wheels.<br/><br/><cite>mike w. said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A606912&x=1#2211490Comment606912"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>i think the finer points of this discussion is what constitutes "true." When i was wrenching, we considered two standards: Commercially true and Racing true.</p>
<p>Most riders got along fine with Commercially true: the wheel passes the brake pads without too noticable side wobble or hops. Most of the rims in that era (early 70's) weren't that precisely made and many had horrendous seam welds or pin joints.</p>
<p>Racing true was the precise build: High quality rims (99% were tubulars, the lightweight 700c clinchers weren't really widely available yet,) High-end hubs (Campag NR was the gold standard,) and Stella or Robrigel DB spokes. They were strictly for racing.</p>
<p>Almost no one had let alone used a tension meter. Our builder was an artisan. i had a few pairs of her wheels. Wish i still had 'em. i'm pretty sure they're still running true.</p>
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<p>The rims etc, available now are so much better, and build up and stay much truer from the get-go, but i don't really think most riders would recognise the difference between commercially and racing true. This arguement approaches theological territory...</p>
<p>i'm sure the major players in this discussion build fine wheels. i'd be happy to give either my business if i needed to, but i've been content to just build my own for all these years. Sure, they may not be ultra-precise builds, but they've held up pretty well if i do say so myself.</p>
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<p></p> i think the finer points of t…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6069122012-10-16T02:20:58.292Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>i think the finer points of this discussion is what constitutes "true." When i was wrenching, we considered two standards: Commercially true and Racing true.</p>
<p>Most riders got along fine with Commercially true: the wheel passes the brake pads without too noticable side wobble or hops. Most of the rims in that era (early 70's) weren't that precisely made and many had horrendous seam welds or pin joints.</p>
<p>Racing true was the precise build: High quality rims (99% were tubulars, the…</p>
<p>i think the finer points of this discussion is what constitutes "true." When i was wrenching, we considered two standards: Commercially true and Racing true.</p>
<p>Most riders got along fine with Commercially true: the wheel passes the brake pads without too noticable side wobble or hops. Most of the rims in that era (early 70's) weren't that precisely made and many had horrendous seam welds or pin joints.</p>
<p>Racing true was the precise build: High quality rims (99% were tubulars, the lightweight 700c clinchers weren't really widely available yet,) High-end hubs (Campag NR was the gold standard,) and Stella or Robrigel DB spokes. They were strictly for racing.</p>
<p>Almost no one had let alone used a tension meter. Our builder was an artisan. i had a few pairs of her wheels. Wish i still had 'em. i'm pretty sure they're still running true.</p>
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<p>The rims etc, available now are so much better, and build up and stay much truer from the get-go, but i don't really think most riders would recognise the difference between commercially and racing true. This arguement approaches theological territory...</p>
<p>i'm sure the major players in this discussion build fine wheels. i'd be happy to give either my business if i needed to, but i've been content to just build my own for all these years. Sure, they may not be ultra-precise builds, but they've held up pretty well if i do say so myself.</p>
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<p>Peace. Out.</p>
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<p> </p> I'm Patrick by the way but yo…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6070152012-10-16T01:57:42.050ZPatrick Dohertyhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PatrickDoherty
I'm Patrick by the way but you guys probably could have guessed that I have given up on Internet anonymity.
I'm Patrick by the way but you guys probably could have guessed that I have given up on Internet anonymity. It's a new moon today -not fu…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6069072012-10-16T01:51:24.016ZFar'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63https://thechainlink.org/profile/JamesBlackHeron
<p>It's a new moon today -not full. </p>
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<p>It's a new moon today -not full. </p>
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<p></p> ha! In due time, friend...in…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6068242012-10-16T01:26:27.306ZLanterne Rougehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/JimSchultz
<p>ha! In due time, friend...in due time.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>ilter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A607011&x=1#2211490Comment607011"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jim, I don`t see a cluster here, yet :))<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jim S said:…</cite></p>
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<p>ha! In due time, friend...in due time.<br/> <br/> <cite>ilter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A607011&x=1#2211490Comment607011"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Jim, I don`t see a cluster here, yet :))<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A606903&x=1#2211490Comment606903"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm trying to decide which thread devolved into more of a clusterf*ck - this one or that 'sweet hand built fixxay' one.</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Jim, I don`t see a cluster…tag:thechainlink.org,2012-10-16:2211490:Comment:6070112012-10-16T01:20:51.580Zilterhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ilter
<p>Hi Jim, I don`t see a cluster here, yet :))<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A606903&x=1#2211490Comment606903"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm trying to decide which thread devolved into more of a clusterf*ck - this one or that 'sweet hand built fixxay' one.</p>
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<p>Hi Jim, I don`t see a cluster here, yet :))<br/> <br/> <cite>Jim S said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/hand-built-wheels-by-well-spoked?page=3&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A606903&x=1#2211490Comment606903"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I'm trying to decide which thread devolved into more of a clusterf*ck - this one or that 'sweet hand built fixxay' one.</p>
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