Got my first bike ticket, I feel so validated - The Chainlink2024-03-29T08:27:16Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/got-my-first-bike-ticket-i-feel-so-validated?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A950277&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHow would you assert your rig…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-11-26:2211490:Comment:9568232015-11-26T00:10:24.633ZV Whttps://thechainlink.org/profile/vincentwaller
How would you assert your rights after that if you've already consented and suffered no damages? I wouldn't want to spend five hours at a police station either but I will support the rights of those who do.
How would you assert your rights after that if you've already consented and suffered no damages? I wouldn't want to spend five hours at a police station either but I will support the rights of those who do. And it's done. I fought the l…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-11-25:2211490:Comment:9569302015-11-25T22:11:03.780ZMadopal (16.5 mi)https://thechainlink.org/profile/madopal
<p>And it's done. I fought the law, and I won. Case dismissed.</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35262859?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35262859?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a>IANAL, but I'm assuming they write so few bike tickets that this one was misfiled somehow? Any lawyers could maybe explain what happened?</p>
<p>And it's done. I fought the law, and I won. Case dismissed.</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35262859?profile=original"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35262859?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"/></a>IANAL, but I'm assuming they write so few bike tickets that this one was misfiled somehow? Any lawyers could maybe explain what happened?</p> Sorry, misreply then. Good po…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-19:2211490:Comment:9500522015-10-19T21:18:12.855ZMadopal (16.5 mi)https://thechainlink.org/profile/madopal
<p>Sorry, misreply then. Good point, always good to know the facts.</p>
<p>Sorry, misreply then. Good point, always good to know the facts.</p> Yes Madopal, I believe that y…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-19:2211490:Comment:9500512015-10-19T21:07:31.640ZTom A.K.https://thechainlink.org/profile/TomKrystyn
Yes Madopal, I believe that you did the right thing with the bike ticket ordinance violation, but my response was directed more towards CL member Asa4 question,<br></br>
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Asa4 asked,<br></br>
"A friend and I were talking about your case and we were kind of wondering if he asked for your driver's license or i.d.? Can you say, you don't have one on you? You were just going out for a bike ride? "<br></br>
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Even in a bike ticket situation, if the officer wants to take you in for no ID on your…
Yes Madopal, I believe that you did the right thing with the bike ticket ordinance violation, but my response was directed more towards CL member Asa4 question,<br/>
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Asa4 asked,<br/>
"A friend and I were talking about your case and we were kind of wondering if he asked for your driver's license or i.d.? Can you say, you don't have one on you? You were just going out for a bike ride? "<br/>
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Even in a bike ticket situation, if the officer wants to take you in for no ID on your person, he can legally. And even more a reason for him to take you in is for refusing to give him your name and address. I get that, but I'm definitel…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-19:2211490:Comment:9500492015-10-19T20:01:25.553ZMadopal (16.5 mi)https://thechainlink.org/profile/madopal
<p>I get that, but I'm definitely in the camp that on the way to work is not a time to take a 5 hour detour to test my constitutional rights. It's just not worth it in that case for me.</p>
<p>I get that, but I'm definitely in the camp that on the way to work is not a time to take a 5 hour detour to test my constitutional rights. It's just not worth it in that case for me.</p> https://www.flexyourrights.or…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-19:2211490:Comment:9502472015-10-19T19:23:45.564ZTom A.K.https://thechainlink.org/profile/TomKrystyn
<a href="https://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-ask-for-id/" target="_blank">https://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-ask-for-id/</a><br />
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You can say you don't have any ID on you, and you can refuse to identify yourself, but if an officer of the law has reasonable cause to suspect you of any illegal activity they can choose to take you in to the police station to confirm your identity and check your criminal history for wants and warrants on your record. This process can…
<a href="https://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-ask-for-id/" target="_blank">https://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-ask-for-id/</a><br />
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You can say you don't have any ID on you, and you can refuse to identify yourself, but if an officer of the law has reasonable cause to suspect you of any illegal activity they can choose to take you in to the police station to confirm your identity and check your criminal history for wants and warrants on your record. This process can legally take up to five hours plus to complete. So, you might be better off time wise dealing the situation as best you can by presenting proper ID and giving the officer your name and asserting your legal rights after that.<br />
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ID laws varies from state to state.<br />
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This information is not intended as legal advice.<br />
Please consult with your attorney for the proper advice. Yeah, I'd rather not compound…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-19:2211490:Comment:9502772015-10-19T14:53:52.899ZMadopal (16.5 mi)https://thechainlink.org/profile/madopal
<p>Yeah, I'd rather not compound anything myself. If an officers asks for identification and I have it, I'm going to provide it. It's one thing to argue over an Idaho stop. It's another thing to start breaking other laws.</p>
<p>If there are more riders, this will become more of an issue (not having a drivers license, different court situations for bikes vs. cars), but I'm not sure this is the case to use to use to try and establish a new precedent.</p>
<p>Yeah, I'd rather not compound anything myself. If an officers asks for identification and I have it, I'm going to provide it. It's one thing to argue over an Idaho stop. It's another thing to start breaking other laws.</p>
<p>If there are more riders, this will become more of an issue (not having a drivers license, different court situations for bikes vs. cars), but I'm not sure this is the case to use to use to try and establish a new precedent.</p> He's going to ticket you, but…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-19:2211490:Comment:9502762015-10-19T14:32:45.328ZApie (11)https://thechainlink.org/profile/AndyPielet
<p>He's going to ticket you, but I guess you could lie and give a false name and address if you're into that type of thing. It might not go over too well when he sees you commuting at the same time everyday. </p>
<p>He's going to ticket you, but I guess you could lie and give a false name and address if you're into that type of thing. It might not go over too well when he sees you commuting at the same time everyday. </p> A friend and I were talking a…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-17:2211490:Comment:9502152015-10-17T22:18:25.090Zasa4https://thechainlink.org/profile/asa4
<p>A friend and I were talking about your case and we were kind of wondering if he asked for your driver's license or i.d.? Can you say, you don't have one on you? You were just going out for a bike ride? </p>
<p>A friend and I were talking about your case and we were kind of wondering if he asked for your driver's license or i.d.? Can you say, you don't have one on you? You were just going out for a bike ride? </p> Thanks for the cautionary tal…tag:thechainlink.org,2015-10-16:2211490:Comment:9496632015-10-16T17:46:24.947Zasa4https://thechainlink.org/profile/asa4
<p>Thanks for the cautionary tale.</p>
<p>At least there's no video! So you might stand a chance. </p>
<p>$100 is excessive, but if you're like me (I rarely stop at Stop signs when there's no cross-traffic and only slow down when there is), the cop probably assumes you do it regularly. </p>
<p>Keep us posted on how it turns out.</p>
<p>Thanks for the cautionary tale.</p>
<p>At least there's no video! So you might stand a chance. </p>
<p>$100 is excessive, but if you're like me (I rarely stop at Stop signs when there's no cross-traffic and only slow down when there is), the cop probably assumes you do it regularly. </p>
<p>Keep us posted on how it turns out.</p>