Cyclists at Risk - Cause and Prevention - The Chainlink2024-03-28T22:16:51Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/cyclists-at-risk-cause-and-prevention?feed=yes&xn_auth=noSorry, but NOBODY "asks for i…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-10:2211490:Comment:10002292016-07-10T21:40:43.363Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>Sorry, but NOBODY "asks for it." </p>
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<p>Is there carelessness? Yes, but no one who considers the consequences "asks" to get hurt. One may be careless or clueless, but one is seldom suicidal. </p>
<p>Sorry, but NOBODY "asks for it." </p>
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<p>Is there carelessness? Yes, but no one who considers the consequences "asks" to get hurt. One may be careless or clueless, but one is seldom suicidal. </p> Hate to say it, but too many…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-10:2211490:Comment:10004852016-07-10T20:37:02.325ZSlowCoachOnTheRoadhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/SlowCoachOnTheRoad
Hate to say it, but too many cyclists ask for it. I see it all the time riding to/from work:<br />
A) Biking less than 3 feet from car door<br />
B) No helmet (especially Divvies)<br />
C) Going through red lights without really looking and stopping first<br />
D) Going through stop signs without slowing down<br />
E) Racing other bikes<br />
F) Too much weaving around stopped or moving cars<br />
G) Not being courteous to cars at stop signs to build positive feelings for us<br />
H) And more....
Hate to say it, but too many cyclists ask for it. I see it all the time riding to/from work:<br />
A) Biking less than 3 feet from car door<br />
B) No helmet (especially Divvies)<br />
C) Going through red lights without really looking and stopping first<br />
D) Going through stop signs without slowing down<br />
E) Racing other bikes<br />
F) Too much weaving around stopped or moving cars<br />
G) Not being courteous to cars at stop signs to build positive feelings for us<br />
H) And more.... +1 Yes! I love the North Law…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-08:2211490:Comment:9998582016-07-08T15:15:54.027ZYasmeenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/YasmeenSchuller
<p>+1 Yes! I love the North Lawndale training they did with the children receiving bikes. I wish we could have more bike giveaways and more bike training. </p>
<p>+1 Yes! I love the North Lawndale training they did with the children receiving bikes. I wish we could have more bike giveaways and more bike training. </p> Comprehensive traffic educati…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-08:2211490:Comment:9998572016-07-08T15:11:35.816ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>Comprehensive <strong>traffic</strong> education starting at a YOUNG age (like 6) - learn how to be safe as a ped, then a cyclist, <strong>then</strong> a driver.</p>
<p>Comprehensive <strong>traffic</strong> education starting at a YOUNG age (like 6) - learn how to be safe as a ped, then a cyclist, <strong>then</strong> a driver.</p> +1 Re-tests on the rules sho…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-08:2211490:Comment:10001142016-07-08T15:10:18.624ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>+1 Re-tests on the rules should be required periodically - perhaps every 2nd renewal. These should absolutely include newer laws which drivers need to know.</p>
<p>+1 Re-tests on the rules should be required periodically - perhaps every 2nd renewal. These should absolutely include newer laws which drivers need to know.</p> I agree with both you and Lis…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-08:2211490:Comment:10001822016-07-08T15:09:01.319ZAnne Althttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Anne91
<p>I agree with both you and Lisa on this. We are riding in SHARED space. It's very important to be aware of that as we ride.</p>
<p>I agree with both you and Lisa on this. We are riding in SHARED space. It's very important to be aware of that as we ride.</p> 100% agree!tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-07:2211490:Comment:9998322016-07-07T20:54:00.268ZLisa Sanzenbacherhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LisaSanzenbacher
<p>100% agree!</p>
<p>100% agree!</p> 19. Ignorance - Drivers simpl…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-07:2211490:Comment:9999632016-07-07T20:52:52.700ZLisa Sanzenbacherhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/LisaSanzenbacher
<p>19. Ignorance - Drivers simply not cognitive of bikes. Prevention? Education and exposure. Teaching how to drive with bikes in Drivers Ed, questions on driver's license tests to begin with.</p>
<p>19. Ignorance - Drivers simply not cognitive of bikes. Prevention? Education and exposure. Teaching how to drive with bikes in Drivers Ed, questions on driver's license tests to begin with.</p> Dooring-
cyclists- keep an e…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-05:2211490:Comment:9993532016-07-05T21:02:03.686ZDavid Barishhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidBarish
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<p>cyclists- keep an eye on the driver's side mirror of parked vehicles to see if you see an eyeball. If so, there is a risk of a door opening. Keep an eye open for lights or parking lights in a vehicle. If the mirror is folded it is more likely to be safe to whiz past as the driver is not sitting in the car. Ride in a straight line giving yourself room from the door even if you make drivers in traffic claustrophobic. Be acutely aware of any movement from the parked…</p>
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<p>cyclists- keep an eye on the driver's side mirror of parked vehicles to see if you see an eyeball. If so, there is a risk of a door opening. Keep an eye open for lights or parking lights in a vehicle. If the mirror is folded it is more likely to be safe to whiz past as the driver is not sitting in the car. Ride in a straight line giving yourself room from the door even if you make drivers in traffic claustrophobic. Be acutely aware of any movement from the parked vehicles or people walking to the cars. While doing all of this you need to be aware of what is on your left in traffic in case you have to bail. Is it safe to veer into the lane or are you going to get crushed by a bus? You may have to make Sophie's choice and sacrifice a few bones to the door rather than your existence to the cars in traffic. Be ready to use your horn and/or voice to alert a potential doorer. Be lit so you can be seen!</p>
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<p>Drivers- try the right hand to open the door trick which forces you to look back. Always check the mirror before opening. Look, look, look. Warn your passengers about looking. They really cannot see on the driver's side as they have no mirror. Urge your passengers to exit on the passenger side to avoid both bikes and cars! If the lane is on the passenger side you need to warn passengers to use the passenger mirror and the passenger in the front has to be the eyes for whoever is behind him or her. This is all especially difficult if kids or codgers are passengers. They often will not listen as well as the rest of the world. </p>
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<p>All this being said, you can still be in the wrong place at the wrong time and it can happen despite the best preparation and intention. This happened to me.</p> I am with Lisa on this. A sub…tag:thechainlink.org,2016-07-05:2211490:Comment:9993492016-07-05T20:50:13.157ZDavid Barishhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidBarish
<p>I am with Lisa on this. A subset of impatience is entitlement. "I am in a hurry and you don't matter." This does apply to both cyclists and motorists. Driving and riding are things we do by ourselves but they are not solitary pursuits. The streets are a shared environment where we must account for each other so we all get home in one piece. There are times when we are all in a hurry regardless of the mode we are using at the time. When we are in a hurry we must be even more vigilant for…</p>
<p>I am with Lisa on this. A subset of impatience is entitlement. "I am in a hurry and you don't matter." This does apply to both cyclists and motorists. Driving and riding are things we do by ourselves but they are not solitary pursuits. The streets are a shared environment where we must account for each other so we all get home in one piece. There are times when we are all in a hurry regardless of the mode we are using at the time. When we are in a hurry we must be even more vigilant for others. </p>