Cyclist Seriously Injured in Blody Collision on the 606 during Tuesday Evening Commute - The Chainlink2024-03-29T01:14:43Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/cyclist-seriously-injured-in-blody-collision-on-the-606-during?feed=yes&xn_auth=noYep. This falls under "buyer…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-28:2211490:Comment:10742132017-08-28T18:24:07.607ZCarter O'Brienhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/CarterOBrien
Yep. This falls under "buyer beware." We took the money, it came with conditions. Really, if the cyclists bother people that much, just use the parks and walk on the sidewalk. The trail itself was never intended to be a "lay out a blanket and BBQ" park just because it has some landscaping.
Yep. This falls under "buyer beware." We took the money, it came with conditions. Really, if the cyclists bother people that much, just use the parks and walk on the sidewalk. The trail itself was never intended to be a "lay out a blanket and BBQ" park just because it has some landscaping. The largest source of funds u…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-28:2211490:Comment:10740612017-08-28T17:00:12.225ZMarkhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Mark314
<p>The largest source of funds used to construct the 606 trail were federal CMAQ funds which must be spent on bicycle commuting infrastructure. For this reason, bikes will always have to be allowed on the 606.</p>
<p>The largest source of funds used to construct the 606 trail were federal CMAQ funds which must be spent on bicycle commuting infrastructure. For this reason, bikes will always have to be allowed on the 606.</p> I'm definitely not. If they w…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-26:2211490:Comment:10741752017-08-26T22:50:46.133ZRuby Redhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/RubyRed
<p>I'm definitely not. If they want to set a speed limit and ticket people, fine, but no, the 606 should not just be for pedestrians. There are sidewalks all over the city and cars don't drive on the sidewalks. <br></br><br></br>Cyclists are not supposed to ride on sidewalks, which means the street is our option. During busy times that means MORE bikes in the street with MORE cars. Frankly, when I'm driving or riding in the street during rush hour and there are a ton of bikes AND cars I get really…</p>
<p>I'm definitely not. If they want to set a speed limit and ticket people, fine, but no, the 606 should not just be for pedestrians. There are sidewalks all over the city and cars don't drive on the sidewalks. <br/><br/>Cyclists are not supposed to ride on sidewalks, which means the street is our option. During busy times that means MORE bikes in the street with MORE cars. Frankly, when I'm driving or riding in the street during rush hour and there are a ton of bikes AND cars I get really nervous.<br/><br/>An advantage of the 606 is that it takes bikes off of the streets in this area, where I think we can all agree, the accidents are more likely to be lethal. Oh, and most drivers get off, especially with an easy hit and run.</p> Agreed. When I ride, I always…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-26:2211490:Comment:10739082017-08-26T22:47:19.919ZRuby Redhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/RubyRed
<p>Agreed. When I ride, I always hang as far to the right as possible, if that means hugging the blue path so someone can pass on my left. If I have to hug the center line to pass, I only do it long enough to pass. And I'll only pass in the oncoming lane when there isn't actually anyone anywhere near it, but with people riding two abreast, or walking 2 and 3 abreast with dogs and kids is where shit gets unpredictable. I slow down in congested areas and speed up when things open up, but tonight…</p>
<p>Agreed. When I ride, I always hang as far to the right as possible, if that means hugging the blue path so someone can pass on my left. If I have to hug the center line to pass, I only do it long enough to pass. And I'll only pass in the oncoming lane when there isn't actually anyone anywhere near it, but with people riding two abreast, or walking 2 and 3 abreast with dogs and kids is where shit gets unpredictable. I slow down in congested areas and speed up when things open up, but tonight I passed a big bike gang that was riding fairly slowly and eating up a lot of the lane, so getting down the 606 at the speed I wanted was seriously hampered. Fortunately there weren't tons of people in the other lane, so I was able to pass safely, but honestly, when people meander from side to side in an unpredictable fashion, it freaks me out. I ALWAYS look over my left shoulder when I start to hug the median, just in case someone quieter and faster than me is attempting to pass. I wish others would maintain that same situational awareness. Everyone should be able to walk, jog, run or sprint at the pace they want for the majority of the path. And yeah, 10 minutes of sprinting down the path is about all I have in me some days, but it sure feels a lot safer than trying to do that in traffic where there are car doors on one side and moving cars on the other side.<br/><br/>I do challenge the notion that the 606 is "not for riding fast." It's one of the ONLY safe stretches to ride at speed in the area, aside from super late at night on the boulevards. And then of course you're risking getting attacked with a machete or something.</p> Yep, my bad on the terminolog…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-25:2211490:Comment:10740862017-08-25T22:45:01.742ZCarter O'Brienhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/CarterOBrien
Yep, my bad on the terminology, Wayne vs Boub seems so long ago...<br />
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But as for the motorist lobby, what do you think they have been doing all these years? We aren't going anywhere, no chance in hell.
Yep, my bad on the terminology, Wayne vs Boub seems so long ago...<br />
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But as for the motorist lobby, what do you think they have been doing all these years? We aren't going anywhere, no chance in hell. Actually, there is a preceden…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-25:2211490:Comment:10739922017-08-25T22:24:45.574Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>Actually, there is a precedent set by a court in Illinois stating that while bicycles <em>may</em> be <em>permitted</em> users of the roads, they are <em>not</em> the <em>intended users</em>.</p>
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<p>We cyclists are minority users of road infrastructure and have sweet F-A to say if a municipality or state decides to banish us to intended bikeways alone. The motoring lobby can outspend and overpower us in a heartbeat if they so choose.</p>
<p>Actually, there is a precedent set by a court in Illinois stating that while bicycles <em>may</em> be <em>permitted</em> users of the roads, they are <em>not</em> the <em>intended users</em>.</p>
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<p>We cyclists are minority users of road infrastructure and have sweet F-A to say if a municipality or state decides to banish us to intended bikeways alone. The motoring lobby can outspend and overpower us in a heartbeat if they so choose.</p> I claim my right to use infra…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-25:2211490:Comment:10738692017-08-25T22:14:58.788ZCarter O'Brienhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/CarterOBrien
I claim my right to use infrastructure my tax dollars helped paid for and so should you. If you honestly think using the 606 means they are going to take our rights as intended users of the streets (and the bike lanes, and Divvy stations) away, well, we're going to have to agree to disagree.
I claim my right to use infrastructure my tax dollars helped paid for and so should you. If you honestly think using the 606 means they are going to take our rights as intended users of the streets (and the bike lanes, and Divvy stations) away, well, we're going to have to agree to disagree. Yes the LFP should be include…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-25:2211490:Comment:10739912017-08-25T21:11:18.007ZJuan 2-3 or more mi.https://thechainlink.org/profile/JohnDominguez
<p>Yes the LFP should be included. But it seems like separate infrastructure is being put in for the exclusive use of cyclists so it would seem moot at this point. </p>
<p>Yes the LFP should be included. But it seems like separate infrastructure is being put in for the exclusive use of cyclists so it would seem moot at this point. </p> "Pushing cyclists out onto th…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-25:2211490:Comment:10739862017-08-25T20:01:04.320Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>"Pushing cyclists out onto the streets, where we belong, will have the salubrious effect of giving people courage to ride there at other times, a lá Critical Mass! As John Forester wrote in 'Effective Cycling' separate bike paths only segregate and limit cyclists, and are a first step to removing our rights."</p>
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<p>i agree with this. i've had more than one driver tell me that i ought to be riding on a path somewhere and not on "their" street. If they'd listen, i'd tell them, 1)The…</p>
<p>"Pushing cyclists out onto the streets, where we belong, will have the salubrious effect of giving people courage to ride there at other times, a lá Critical Mass! As John Forester wrote in 'Effective Cycling' separate bike paths only segregate and limit cyclists, and are a first step to removing our rights."</p>
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<p>i agree with this. i've had more than one driver tell me that i ought to be riding on a path somewhere and not on "their" street. If they'd listen, i'd tell them, 1)The path won't get me where i'm headed, and 2)there's an expressway a couple of miles from here, so why aren't you driving there?</p> The CTA doesn't ban bicycles…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-08-25:2211490:Comment:10738982017-08-25T17:59:13.673ZCarter O'Brienhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/CarterOBrien
<p>The CTA doesn't ban bicycles during rush hour because they are being ridden recklessly.</p>
<p>The CTA doesn't ban bicycles during rush hour because they are being ridden recklessly.</p>