Bicycling wastes gas ? - The Chainlink2024-03-28T19:45:05Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A243883&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWrong on both counts, includi…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-05:2211490:Comment:2446312010-10-05T20:14:54.706ZMichael Perzhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MichaelPerz
Wrong on both counts, including the linked article. Everybody knows that's unicorn dung.<br />
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<cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244566"><div>Mmmmm.....chicken-flavored frozen yogurt<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Duppie said:…</cite></div>
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Wrong on both counts, including the linked article. Everybody knows that's unicorn dung.<br />
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<cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244566"><div>Mmmmm.....chicken-flavored frozen yogurt<br/> <br/>
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Strawberry Ice Cream. Yummy!<br/>
Oh, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2009/08/03/guess-whats-in-the-picture-foodlike-substance/" target="_blank"><b>wait</b></a>.</div>
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</blockquote> Mmmmm.....chicken-flavored fr…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-05:2211490:Comment:2445662010-10-05T16:10:05.612ZTank-Ridin' Ryanhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Tank
Mmmmm.....chicken-flavored frozen yogurt<br />
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<cite>Duppie said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244562"><div><p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://www.fooducate.com/blog/wp-content/media/Mechanically%20Separated%20Chicken"></img></p>
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Strawberry Ice Cream. Yummy!<br></br>
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Mmmmm.....chicken-flavored frozen yogurt<br />
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<cite>Duppie said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244562"><div><p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://www.fooducate.com/blog/wp-content/media/Mechanically%20Separated%20Chicken"/></p>
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Strawberry Ice Cream. Yummy!<br/>
Oh, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2009/08/03/guess-whats-in-the-picture-foodlike-substance/" target="_blank"><b>wait</b></a>.</div>
</blockquote> Strawberry Ice Cream. Yummy…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-05:2211490:Comment:2445622010-10-05T15:36:26.909ZDuppiehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Duppie
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Strawberry Ice Cream. Yummy!<br />
Oh, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2009/08/03/guess-whats-in-the-picture-foodlike-substance/" target="_blank"><b>wait</b></a>.
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Strawberry Ice Cream. Yummy!<br />
Oh, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2009/08/03/guess-whats-in-the-picture-foodlike-substance/" target="_blank"><b>wait</b></a>. LOL But Gabe, won't you pleee…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-04:2211490:Comment:2441832010-10-04T14:35:05.932ZTank-Ridin' Ryanhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Tank
LOL But Gabe, won't you pleeeease think of the children?<br />
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<cite>Gabe said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244103"><div>I kinda wish a kids head exploded everytime I ate meat. Have you met some of the shitbag kids out there? :-)<br></br><p style="text-align: left;"><img alt="" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35234365?profile=original"></img></p>
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LOL But Gabe, won't you pleeeease think of the children?<br />
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<cite>Gabe said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244103"><div>I kinda wish a kids head exploded everytime I ate meat. Have you met some of the shitbag kids out there? :-)<br/><p style="text-align: left;"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/35234365?profile=original" alt=""/></p>
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<cite>Dr. Doom said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?x=1&id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=14#2211490Comment244043"><div>The point is that it isn't okay to do something just because it's pleasurable. I assume you'd accept that it wouldn't be okay to eat meat if a child's head exploded every time you ate a tasty cheeseburger. If you accept that, we're just arguing over exactly how bad the consequences of meat eating are, and whether they're so bad that it's actually wrong to eat meat. There's clearly a parallel, if an over the top one, to taking delight in underage Thai girls.<br/> <br/> I wouldn't say the consequences are so bad that no one should eat meat, ever, but I would say that some vast, overwhelming percentage of meat eating is indefensible ethically and possibly morally. I'd also say that calling someone preachy isn't a good way of refuting the point they're making.<br/>
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<i>I'm totally confused as to how eating meat is on the same moral ground as being a pedophile.<br/>
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It's not actually a straw man argument (my mistake, I apologize), because the two arguments aren't even remotely similar. Drawing parallels between the two isn't a logical fallacy - because it's not even remotely logical.<br/>
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</blockquote> Ok, so I wasn't incorrect in…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-04:2211490:Comment:2441822010-10-04T14:34:20.404ZTank-Ridin' Ryanhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Tank
Ok, so I wasn't incorrect in calling it a straw man. (I take back my apology! hehe)<br />
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<cite>H3N3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244067"><div>A straw man argument would be twisting someone's position to make it sound like they were arguing something much more indefensible than they actually are.<br></br> <br></br> A good example would be, say, if someone were to state that arguing that…</div>
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Ok, so I wasn't incorrect in calling it a straw man. (I take back my apology! hehe)<br />
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<cite>H3N3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=15#2211490Comment244067"><div>A straw man argument would be twisting someone's position to make it sound like they were arguing something much more indefensible than they actually are.<br/> <br/>
A good example would be, say, if someone were to state that arguing that something, e.g. consuming meat, is OK because it's pleasurable is weak, and then were to give a specific example to illustrate that weakness by giving different scenario in which that sort of argument would be offensive to most, e.g. underage prostitution in a country in which it is widespread, and then someone were to proclaim that that person is trying to say that eating meat is on the same moral ground as partaking of child prostitution- <i>that person</i> would be engaging in a straw-man argument.<br/>
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You don't know anyone who would do that, do you?<br/>
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<cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?page=14&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A244043&x=1#2211490Comment243958"><div>I'm totally confused as to how eating meat is on the same moral ground as being a pedophile.<br/> <br/> It's not actually a straw man argument (my mistake, I apologize), because the two arguments aren't even remotely similar. Drawing parallels between the two isn't a logical fallacy - because it's not even remotely logical.<br/> <br/> <br/>
<cite>H3N3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=14#2211490Comment243923"><div>Straw Man= something someone says that you don't like?<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?x=1&id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=12#2211490Comment243882"><div>I just wish I could see past the straw man and through all the holier-than-thou BS to his righteousness.<br/> <br/> <cite>H3N3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=12#2211490Comment243871"><div>He's kind of right though.<br/> <br/> .<br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?page=12&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A243867&x=1#2211490Comment243866"><div>Wow.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jason said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=10#2211490Comment243610"><div>And as I said before, "I eat meat because it tastes good" is a weak argument IMO. In light of all the evidence of what the costs of a meat rich diet are to the planet, it's health and ultimately and literally our own health as a species, that's basically the same argument as saying "I have sex with underage girls in brothels in Thailand because it is physically pleasurable."<br/> <br/></div>
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</blockquote> I kinda wish a kids head expl…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-04:2211490:Comment:2441032010-10-04T13:22:36.720ZVildahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Vilda
I kinda wish a kids head exploded everytime I ate meat. Have you met some of the shitbag kids out there? :-)<br />
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<cite>Dr. Doom said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?x=1&id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=14#2211490Comment244043"><div>The point is that it isn't okay to do something just because it's pleasurable. I assume you'd accept that it wouldn't be okay to eat meat if a child's head…</div>
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I kinda wish a kids head exploded everytime I ate meat. Have you met some of the shitbag kids out there? :-)<br />
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<cite>Dr. Doom said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?x=1&id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=14#2211490Comment244043"><div>The point is that it isn't okay to do something just because it's pleasurable. I assume you'd accept that it wouldn't be okay to eat meat if a child's head exploded every time you ate a tasty cheeseburger. If you accept that, we're just arguing over exactly how bad the consequences of meat eating are, and whether they're so bad that it's actually wrong to eat meat. There's clearly a parallel, if an over the top one, to taking delight in underage Thai girls.<br/> <br/>
I wouldn't say the consequences are so bad that no one should eat meat, ever, but I would say that some vast, overwhelming percentage of meat eating is indefensible ethically and possibly morally. I'd also say that calling someone preachy isn't a good way of refuting the point they're making.<br/>
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<i>I'm totally confused as to how eating meat is on the same moral ground as being a pedophile.<br/>
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It's not actually a straw man argument (my mistake, I apologize), because the two arguments aren't even remotely similar. Drawing parallels between the two isn't a logical fallacy - because it's not even remotely logical.<br/>
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</blockquote> OK, new chainlink definition…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-04:2211490:Comment:2440682010-10-04T06:07:00.437Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
OK, new chainlink definition of "straw man"-<br />
Any argument presented <i>effectively</i> that doesn't support your position.
OK, new chainlink definition of "straw man"-<br />
Any argument presented <i>effectively</i> that doesn't support your position. A straw man argument would be…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-04:2211490:Comment:2440672010-10-04T06:05:41.749Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
A straw man argument would be twisting someone's position to make it sound like they were arguing something much more indefensible than they actually are.<br></br>
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A good example would be, say, if someone were to state that arguing that something, e.g. consuming meat, is OK because it's pleasurable is weak, and then were to give a specific example to illustrate that weakness by giving different scenario in which that sort of argument would be offensive to most, e.g. underage prostitution in a…
A straw man argument would be twisting someone's position to make it sound like they were arguing something much more indefensible than they actually are.<br/>
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A good example would be, say, if someone were to state that arguing that something, e.g. consuming meat, is OK because it's pleasurable is weak, and then were to give a specific example to illustrate that weakness by giving different scenario in which that sort of argument would be offensive to most, e.g. underage prostitution in a country in which it is widespread, and then someone were to proclaim that that person is trying to say that eating meat is on the same moral ground as partaking of child prostitution- <i>that person</i> would be engaging in a straw-man argument.<br/>
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You don't know anyone who would do that, do you?<br/>
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<cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?page=14&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A244043&x=1#2211490Comment243958"><div>I'm totally confused as to how eating meat is on the same moral ground as being a pedophile.<br/> <br/> It's not actually a straw man argument (my mistake, I apologize), because the two arguments aren't even remotely similar. Drawing parallels between the two isn't a logical fallacy - because it's not even remotely logical.<br/> <br/>
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<cite>H3N3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=14#2211490Comment243923"><div>Straw Man= something someone says that you don't like?<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?x=1&id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=12#2211490Comment243882"><div>I just wish I could see past the straw man and through all the holier-than-thou BS to his righteousness.<br/> <br/> <cite>H3N3 said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=12#2211490Comment243871"><div>He's kind of right though.<br/> <br/> .<br/> <br/> <br/> <cite>Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?page=12&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A243867&x=1#2211490Comment243866"><div>Wow.<br/> <br/> <cite>Jason said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/bicycling-wastes-gas?id=2211490%3ATopic%3A242289&page=10#2211490Comment243610"><div>And as I said before, "I eat meat because it tastes good" is a weak argument IMO. In light of all the evidence of what the costs of a meat rich diet are to the planet, it's health and ultimately and literally our own health as a species, that's basically the same argument as saying "I have sex with underage girls in brothels in Thailand because it is physically pleasurable."<br/> <br/></div>
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</blockquote> The point is that it isn't ok…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-04:2211490:Comment:2440432010-10-04T04:32:39.327ZDr. Doomhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DrDoom
The point is that it isn't okay to do something just because it's pleasurable. I assume you'd accept that it wouldn't be okay to eat meat if a child's head exploded every time you ate a tasty cheeseburger. If you accept that, we're just arguing over exactly how bad the consequences of meat eating are, and whether they're so bad that it's actually wrong to eat meat. There's clearly a parallel, if an over the top one, to taking delight in underage Thai girls.<br></br>
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The point is that it isn't okay to do something just because it's pleasurable. I assume you'd accept that it wouldn't be okay to eat meat if a child's head exploded every time you ate a tasty cheeseburger. If you accept that, we're just arguing over exactly how bad the consequences of meat eating are, and whether they're so bad that it's actually wrong to eat meat. There's clearly a parallel, if an over the top one, to taking delight in underage Thai girls.<br/>
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I wouldn't say the consequences are so bad that no one should eat meat, ever, but I would say that some vast, overwhelming percentage of meat eating is indefensible ethically and possibly morally. I'd also say that calling someone preachy isn't a good way of refuting the point they're making.<br/>
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<i>I'm totally confused as to how eating meat is on the same moral ground as being a pedophile.<br/>
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It's not actually a straw man argument (my mistake, I apologize), because the two arguments aren't even remotely similar. Drawing parallels between the two isn't a logical fallacy - because it's not even remotely logical.<br/>
</i> Eating meat also makes you a…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-10-04:2211490:Comment:2439602010-10-04T02:36:50.515ZVildahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Vilda
Eating meat also makes you a gay devil worshipper!<br />
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Eating meat also makes you a gay devil worshipper!<br />
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