Are these bike lane signals confusing and hazardous? - The Chainlink2024-03-29T11:37:50Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/are-these-bike-lane-signals-confusing-and-hazardous?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A1079295&feed=yes&xn_auth=noForgot to mention that:
- Whe…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-17:2211490:Comment:10801922017-10-17T23:19:04.803ZMauricehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Maurice
<p>Forgot to mention that:</p>
<p>- When I got to the portion of the "protected" bike lane next to the closed sidewalk, there were 2 officers walking side by side down the middle of the bike lane, blocking it completely.</p>
<p>- After I turned, I promptly got buzzed by a CPD SUV who passed me within a foot while going about 45 MPH because he wanted to beat me to a red light.</p>
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<p>The moral is that we can't expect CPD to enforce the rules. It has to be Dept. of Revenue and other…</p>
<p>Forgot to mention that:</p>
<p>- When I got to the portion of the "protected" bike lane next to the closed sidewalk, there were 2 officers walking side by side down the middle of the bike lane, blocking it completely.</p>
<p>- After I turned, I promptly got buzzed by a CPD SUV who passed me within a foot while going about 45 MPH because he wanted to beat me to a red light.</p>
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<p>The moral is that we can't expect CPD to enforce the rules. It has to be Dept. of Revenue and other ticket writers.</p> Which not only fails to enfor…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-17:2211490:Comment:10799822017-10-17T21:44:58.305ZCherylhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/cmz
<p>Which not only fails to enforce the rules, but gives the impression that these behaviors are condoned. SMH.</p>
<p>Which not only fails to enforce the rules, but gives the impression that these behaviors are condoned. SMH.</p> This morning, I followed a bu…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-17:2211490:Comment:10800932017-10-17T21:24:19.153ZMauricehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Maurice
<p>This morning, I followed a bunch of bike cops down Washington. When I first saw them, they were riding past a truck unloading in the bike lane (right around the corner from a loading dock) and didn't say anything to the driver. At Wells, 2 vehicles were stopped in the bike lane, having blown the red light, and waiting for pedestrians to clear so they could illegally turn. Again, the bike cops didn't say anything.</p>
<p>This morning, I followed a bunch of bike cops down Washington. When I first saw them, they were riding past a truck unloading in the bike lane (right around the corner from a loading dock) and didn't say anything to the driver. At Wells, 2 vehicles were stopped in the bike lane, having blown the red light, and waiting for pedestrians to clear so they could illegally turn. Again, the bike cops didn't say anything.</p> It would be nice to see some…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-16:2211490:Comment:10797142017-10-16T23:37:01.414ZV Whttps://thechainlink.org/profile/vincentwaller
It would be nice to see some enforcement. I have yet to see one person blowing through the red light at a no turn on red sign get pulled over. I'll have the green light for the bike lane and they will be rolling right on through, I'll routinely yell and gesture at their red light. Some drivers thank me and stop, but most look at the sign and then keep going anyway.
It would be nice to see some enforcement. I have yet to see one person blowing through the red light at a no turn on red sign get pulled over. I'll have the green light for the bike lane and they will be rolling right on through, I'll routinely yell and gesture at their red light. Some drivers thank me and stop, but most look at the sign and then keep going anyway. Good point. Drivers are "used…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-16:2211490:Comment:10797012017-10-16T16:43:02.911ZAlex Zhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AlexZ
<p>Good point. Drivers are "used to" turning right on red as a general rule.</p>
<p>Good point. Drivers are "used to" turning right on red as a general rule.</p> This is a good distinction, b…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-16:2211490:Comment:10795492017-10-16T14:45:11.470ZMarkhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Mark314
<p>This is a good distinction, but I think many drivers give more heed to left turn arrows than right turn arrows. I think this will always be an issue even over time in trying to control cars making right turns. Given the longstanding right-on-red law, many drivers think any right turn is their legal right.</p>
<p>This is a good distinction, but I think many drivers give more heed to left turn arrows than right turn arrows. I think this will always be an issue even over time in trying to control cars making right turns. Given the longstanding right-on-red law, many drivers think any right turn is their legal right.</p> A crossing gate that comes do…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-16:2211490:Comment:10795452017-10-16T14:39:09.760ZArgonne69https://thechainlink.org/profile/Argonne69
<p>A crossing gate that comes down in front of the left lane traffic could do the trick.</p>
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<p>A crossing gate that comes down in front of the left lane traffic could do the trick.</p>
<p></p> I agree that the signals can …tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-16:2211490:Comment:10796212017-10-16T13:56:44.308ZDavid Barishhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/DavidBarish
<p>I agree that the signals can be a problem. What I do not know is the solution. I think Alex Z. hit the problem in that drivers can be inattentive. I think cyclists and pedestrians as well can be inattentive. The question is how do we deal with the reality of that inattention? Frankly, the intersection is easier now because construction at 77. W. Washington, where I work, has made the bike lane almost impossible to use. The sidewalk is closed and pedestrians…</p>
<p>I agree that the signals can be a problem. What I do not know is the solution. I think Alex Z. hit the problem in that drivers can be inattentive. I think cyclists and pedestrians as well can be inattentive. The question is how do we deal with the reality of that inattention? Frankly, the intersection is easier now because construction at 77. W. Washington, where I work, has made the bike lane almost impossible to use. The sidewalk is closed and pedestrians (ignoring many signs) walk through the bike lane. The lane cannot be safely used at much more than 5 mph. Once it is back to normal speed the problems in the article will reappear.</p> I agree that the problem is t…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-16:2211490:Comment:10796932017-10-16T13:42:55.122ZAlex Zhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AlexZ
<p>I agree that the problem is that (some) users are inattentive, not that the signals are bad.</p>
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<p>IME there are far far fewer illegal lefts off of Dearborn now than there were in 2013. I think it takes a bit of time for the driving population to fully grok the new "rules."</p>
<p>I agree that the problem is that (some) users are inattentive, not that the signals are bad.</p>
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<p>IME there are far far fewer illegal lefts off of Dearborn now than there were in 2013. I think it takes a bit of time for the driving population to fully grok the new "rules."</p> I'm not inclined to blame the…tag:thechainlink.org,2017-10-15:2211490:Comment:10793092017-10-15T04:19:25.202ZMauricehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Maurice
I'm not inclined to blame the signals when there are sooo many asshole drivers who would right hook their own mother if they thought it would get them to Starbucks 3 seconds faster. Hell, only one block west of this intersection, there is a clear "no right turn" sign that is routinely ignored.
I'm not inclined to blame the signals when there are sooo many asshole drivers who would right hook their own mother if they thought it would get them to Starbucks 3 seconds faster. Hell, only one block west of this intersection, there is a clear "no right turn" sign that is routinely ignored.