Aggressive left turns. - The Chainlink2024-03-28T14:22:34Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/aggressive-left-turns?commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A1112768&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt's your world, but if the i…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-23:2211490:Comment:11156252019-01-23T03:39:23.581ZTonyPhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/TonyP
<p>It's your world, but if the intersection is so dicey that it's unsafe, 5 minutes extra travel time ain't much.</p>
<p>It's your world, but if the intersection is so dicey that it's unsafe, 5 minutes extra travel time ain't much.</p> I live near the Irving Park u…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-23:2211490:Comment:11158022019-01-23T00:57:02.502ZMagMileMarauderhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/MagMileMarauder
<p>I live near the Irving Park underpass, one of the worse and unsafest entrances to the LFP. You have left turning vehicles that rarely give you the right of way (while entering through the sidewalk) even though the walking signal is on. If you decide to enter on the street side, you're forced to be sandwiched between LSD cars and exiting and entering, with no ramp to access the path. You could turn left mirroring the car traffic, but it's just not safe. Terrible terrible design, then on top…</p>
<p>I live near the Irving Park underpass, one of the worse and unsafest entrances to the LFP. You have left turning vehicles that rarely give you the right of way (while entering through the sidewalk) even though the walking signal is on. If you decide to enter on the street side, you're forced to be sandwiched between LSD cars and exiting and entering, with no ramp to access the path. You could turn left mirroring the car traffic, but it's just not safe. Terrible terrible design, then on top of that you have to be careful entering the path because there's the hill where bikes could be potentially flying downhill. I like the Buena underpass, but it would set me back at least 5 minutes each way.</p> That intersection is one of m…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-22:2211490:Comment:11155502019-01-22T22:46:45.764Zoncewasenoughhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Elise
<p>That intersection is one of my biggest pet peeves. I have called the local alderman about it asking for police enforcement. Someone is going to get killed there and the officers who frequently patrol that corner don't seem to care. If only people were getting ticketed for bad driving like they are for bad parking! Might change some behaviors.</p>
<p>That intersection is one of my biggest pet peeves. I have called the local alderman about it asking for police enforcement. Someone is going to get killed there and the officers who frequently patrol that corner don't seem to care. If only people were getting ticketed for bad driving like they are for bad parking! Might change some behaviors.</p> They want you to know that yo…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-08:2211490:Comment:11131892019-01-08T20:33:21.625ZPaul Lazzarohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PaulLazzaro
<p>They want you to know that your presence on the street annoys them. Streets are for cars, not for people!</p>
<p>They want you to know that your presence on the street annoys them. Streets are for cars, not for people!</p> i hope that when you're dead…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-04:2211490:Comment:11128522019-01-04T21:35:35.259Zmike w.https://thechainlink.org/profile/mikew
<p>i hope that when you're dead right you don't get right dead! There are a lot of homicidal drivers out there!</p>
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<p>i hope that when you're dead right you don't get right dead! There are a lot of homicidal drivers out there!</p>
<p></p> Yes, cameras with a constantl…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-04:2211490:Comment:11127682019-01-04T17:45:44.383ZErnesto Lubehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErnestoLube
<p>Yes, cameras with a constantly flashing light as a warning, maybe, would deter red running drivers. </p>
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<p>Last summer, there was a group of pedestrians ready to cross and I told them that as soon as we get the walk signal, we cross. Did so only to get three left red light running cars stuck at the intersection because people who were crossing on the other side also started to cross. </p>
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<p>Honking ensued from the legit traffic headed north. Hey, if its our turn to cross, I…</p>
<p>Yes, cameras with a constantly flashing light as a warning, maybe, would deter red running drivers. </p>
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<p>Last summer, there was a group of pedestrians ready to cross and I told them that as soon as we get the walk signal, we cross. Did so only to get three left red light running cars stuck at the intersection because people who were crossing on the other side also started to cross. </p>
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<p>Honking ensued from the legit traffic headed north. Hey, if its our turn to cross, I cross. I get hit, it is that driver's fault. </p> Haha. Awesome.
I also typica…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-04:2211490:Comment:11130272019-01-04T17:24:28.039ZPhillip Hutchinsonhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PhillipHutchinson
<p>Haha. Awesome. </p>
<p>I also typically start crossing here as soon as I get the signal, but almost every time I have to stop and wait for a few red-light-running motorists to complete their turn and clear the intersection, and they often get super aggressive if they can't. </p>
<p>I don't understand why there isn't a red light camera to at least ticket motorists running that left turn red light. Also it's ridiculous that there isn't a crosswalk on the North leg of Michigan. Over 20,000…</p>
<p>Haha. Awesome. </p>
<p>I also typically start crossing here as soon as I get the signal, but almost every time I have to stop and wait for a few red-light-running motorists to complete their turn and clear the intersection, and they often get super aggressive if they can't. </p>
<p>I don't understand why there isn't a red light camera to at least ticket motorists running that left turn red light. Also it's ridiculous that there isn't a crosswalk on the North leg of Michigan. Over 20,000 pedestrians (and 700 cyclists) a day access the lakefront at Oak Street Beach during the summer, and the intersection design forces them all to cross at this single point on the South and East side of the intersection so that a handful of motorists can get through faster. </p>
<p>This whole area is a great example of terrible design that prioritizes motorists above all else. Michigan is 7 friggin lanes wide, and pedestrians are left with about 10 feet of sidewalk squeezed up against the curb and littered with traffic signal poles and equipment. There's no space for bikes anywhere. Don't even get me started on that North Bound 151 CTA Bus Stop on the tiny concrete median... sigh.</p>
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<p></p> Thanks, Phillip. I failed to…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-04:2211490:Comment:11129572019-01-04T16:55:28.945ZErnesto Lubehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErnestoLube
<p>Thanks, Phillip. I failed to mention that the bus was void of passengers - I think that's why the driver felt the liberty to yell. I hope he's allergic to asparagus, and if he has a dog and does pick up his dog's poop, there's an extra hole in the bag he uses so his finger gets it also.</p>
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<p>I've gotten yelled at by other drivers at that intersection when I cross - especially in the summer when that intersection is crowded with pedestrians. </p>
<p>Thanks, Phillip. I failed to mention that the bus was void of passengers - I think that's why the driver felt the liberty to yell. I hope he's allergic to asparagus, and if he has a dog and does pick up his dog's poop, there's an extra hole in the bag he uses so his finger gets it also.</p>
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<p>I've gotten yelled at by other drivers at that intersection when I cross - especially in the summer when that intersection is crowded with pedestrians. </p> That intersection is particul…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-04:2211490:Comment:11128512019-01-04T16:48:35.313ZPhillip Hutchinsonhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/PhillipHutchinson
<p>That intersection is particularly bad for motorists running the red on the South Bound left turn arrow. Also, there is no CTA bus route that goes down Oak (which is actually called "East Lake Shore Drive" east of Michigan). Not sure why they would even be making that turn.</p>
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<p>Regardless, glad to hear you're OK and didn't get hit. I've seen some really close calls there, and this is the location where <span>Blaine Klingenberg was killed by a bus driver in…</span></p>
<p>That intersection is particularly bad for motorists running the red on the South Bound left turn arrow. Also, there is no CTA bus route that goes down Oak (which is actually called "East Lake Shore Drive" east of Michigan). Not sure why they would even be making that turn.</p>
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<p>Regardless, glad to hear you're OK and didn't get hit. I've seen some really close calls there, and this is the location where <span>Blaine Klingenberg was killed by a bus driver in 2016. </span></p>
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<p></p> Last night, around 5:40ish PM…tag:thechainlink.org,2019-01-04:2211490:Comment:11127662019-01-04T16:26:10.786ZErnesto Lubehttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ErnestoLube
<p>Last night, around 5:40ish PM, I was at the intersection of Oak St. and Michigan Ave. I always cross at that crosswalk, off the bike, walking. And I always cross as soon as I get the walk signal going north. Always. I don’t care if up to five cars trail one another, running the left turn red light. Those drivers need to judge time and space… because I don’t think they know what rules and common sense are.</p>
<p>There was a CTA bus at the intersection that was going to make a left turn…</p>
<p>Last night, around 5:40ish PM, I was at the intersection of Oak St. and Michigan Ave. I always cross at that crosswalk, off the bike, walking. And I always cross as soon as I get the walk signal going north. Always. I don’t care if up to five cars trail one another, running the left turn red light. Those drivers need to judge time and space… because I don’t think they know what rules and common sense are.</p>
<p>There was a CTA bus at the intersection that was going to make a left turn (headed on Oak towards the lake). It was one of those long ones with the accordion in the middle. You know which ones they are. It was already half way in the intersection…</p>
<p>Naturally, as I got the walk signal, I began crossing – bus revs it up to cut off traffic who had the green light heading north. I am half way the crosswalk and driver yelled at me “TRAFFIC LAWS!”</p>
<p>Yeah, obey traffic laws, rules, common sense.</p>