Advice Please--is it ever too cold for social biking? - The Chainlink2024-03-29T15:12:42Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topics/advice-pleaseis-it-ever-too?groupUrl=bikewinter&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A268369&groupId=2211490%3AGroup%3A92050&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI would also say have the rid…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-11:2211490:Comment:2688492010-12-11T03:46:25.356Zh' Zerocatshttps://thechainlink.org/profile/H3N3
<p>I would also say have the ride regardless of temps and be prepared to shorten it and add more warming options. If people know this flexibility is built in you'll more easily avoid "nobody showing" (although I don't think it likely regardless.) Last year I bailed early because it hadn't occurred to me I would need shoes other than my work shoes if I came straight to work and my feet froze.</p>
<p>I would also say have the ride regardless of temps and be prepared to shorten it and add more warming options. If people know this flexibility is built in you'll more easily avoid "nobody showing" (although I don't think it likely regardless.) Last year I bailed early because it hadn't occurred to me I would need shoes other than my work shoes if I came straight to work and my feet froze.</p> On a positive note, the extre…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2684962010-12-09T23:08:26.151ZKevin C Dormanthttps://thechainlink.org/profile/KevinC
<p>On a positive note, the extremely cold weather should keep the horrible sweaters from <em>smelling</em> horrible! And on another "glass is half full" note, it doesn't look like we'll need any sunscreen per Accuweather:</p>
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<p>On a positive note, the extremely cold weather should keep the horrible sweaters from <em>smelling</em> horrible! And on another "glass is half full" note, it doesn't look like we'll need any sunscreen per Accuweather:</p>
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<p><br/><br/><cite>jamimaria said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/advice-pleaseis-it-ever-too?groupUrl=bikewinter&page=1&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A268483&x=1#2211490Comment268483"><div>The Route will be slightly different from last year....and we didn't end at the Lincoln Square thing, we merely stopped there. We were supposed to end at Simons in Andersonville, but they were too crowded.<br/> <br/> If it is below 15, I'll probably cancel. If air temperature is higher, but the windchill is in the single digits, I'll probably cancel.<br/> <br/> If it's snowing and beautiful and like a winter snowglobe, then we're totally on! However, we won't be taking scenic routes, and when leaving bars, there will be prizes for being the first person to have their bike unlocked, straddled and ready to go.<br/> <br/><br/><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/advice-pleaseis-it-ever-too?groupUrl=bikewinter&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A268458&xg_source=activity&groupId=2211490%3AGroup%3A92050#2211490Comment268456"></blockquote>
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</blockquote> The Route will be slightly di…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2684832010-12-09T22:15:26.970ZBalloonBikerhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/jamimaria
The Route will be slightly different from last year....and we didn't end at the Lincoln Square thing, we merely stopped there. We were supposed to end at Simons in Andersonville, but they were too crowded.<br />
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If it is below 15, I'll probably cancel. If air temperature is higher, but the windchill is in the single digits, I'll probably cancel.<br />
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If it's snowing and beautiful and like a winter snowglobe, then we're totally on! However, we won't be taking scenic routes, and when leaving bars, there…
The Route will be slightly different from last year....and we didn't end at the Lincoln Square thing, we merely stopped there. We were supposed to end at Simons in Andersonville, but they were too crowded.<br />
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If it is below 15, I'll probably cancel. If air temperature is higher, but the windchill is in the single digits, I'll probably cancel.<br />
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If it's snowing and beautiful and like a winter snowglobe, then we're totally on! However, we won't be taking scenic routes, and when leaving bars, there will be prizes for being the first person to have their bike unlocked, straddled and ready to go.<br />
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It was a really fun ride last year, but it was also very cold.<br />
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<cite>Andrew Bedno said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/advice-pleaseis-it-ever-too?groupUrl=bikewinter&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A268458&xg_source=activity&groupId=2211490%3AGroup%3A92050#2211490Comment268456"><div>Aren't there some big enclosed and heated areas in the DP <a href="http://www.christkindlmarket.com/en/" rel="nofollow">Kindlmarket</a>?<br/><br/>Also, I note that last year's endpoint (the <a href="http://www.lincolnsquarechristkindl.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lincoln Square Kindlemarket</a>) appears to have been last week.</div>
</blockquote> My sweater is hideous but als…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2684582010-12-09T21:46:24.081ZAsh L.https://thechainlink.org/profile/AshLottes
My sweater is hideous but also drafty. I would appreciate rescheduling if it's below 15 but most certainly if the winds are above 15mph.
My sweater is hideous but also drafty. I would appreciate rescheduling if it's below 15 but most certainly if the winds are above 15mph. Aren't there some big enclose…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2684562010-12-09T21:45:15.085ZAndrew Bednohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AndrewBedno
Aren't there some big enclosed and heated areas in the DP <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.christkindlmarket.com/en/">Kindlmarket</a>?<br/>
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Also, I note that last year's endpoint (the <a href="http://www.lincolnsquarechristkindl.com/" target="_blank">Lincoln Square Kindlemarket</a>) appears to have been last week.
Aren't there some big enclosed and heated areas in the DP <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.christkindlmarket.com/en/">Kindlmarket</a>?<br/>
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Also, I note that last year's endpoint (the <a href="http://www.lincolnsquarechristkindl.com/" target="_blank">Lincoln Square Kindlemarket</a>) appears to have been last week. It is possible to have a good…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2683832010-12-09T19:33:37.943ZTodd Allenhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/ToddAllen
It is possible to have a good ride in the most extreme conditions. I've gone on a couple of Todd Gee's snow rides that were very blizzardy and likely drew good turnouts due to the extreme nature of the weather.<br />
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But in general as the weather deteriorates so does the turnout. Lowell Nelson and myself organized a few "River Shiver" rides with exceptionally low turnouts. But because we knew we would both enjoy doing the ride together, it didn't matter to us how many might show up.<br />
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Having no one…
It is possible to have a good ride in the most extreme conditions. I've gone on a couple of Todd Gee's snow rides that were very blizzardy and likely drew good turnouts due to the extreme nature of the weather.<br />
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But in general as the weather deteriorates so does the turnout. Lowell Nelson and myself organized a few "River Shiver" rides with exceptionally low turnouts. But because we knew we would both enjoy doing the ride together, it didn't matter to us how many might show up.<br />
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Having no one show up for a 'group' ride sucks, but if you have a commited partner/co-organizer, then there is no risk. Looking at your ride in the calendar I see there are quite a few RSVPS committed. With that many RSVPs I'd imagine at least some will show, but you might ask who will show no matter what, or call a couple you know best to insure you'll have someone who will show up.<br />
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As for the concern for others who show up being miserable, just make your plans as flexible as possible and ask the group when to keep riding or stop for a warm up. It's up to each rider to prepare themselves for the conditions and to know their limits.<br />
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I'm considering your ride, but I'm increasingly becoming a weather weenie. I've had a couple recent solo night rides in marginal weather that became quite unpleasant. In the most recent I was fixing a flat when my mitten blew into a pothole pond of salty melt water. Had a rough ride before finding an open McDonalds which fortunately had a bathroom hot air hand drier. I'll only be riding when I must in conditions where I can't readily fix a flat. I'm also thinking 15 as the c…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2683572010-12-09T18:41:02.559ZBalloonBikerhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/jamimaria
I'm also thinking 15 as the cut off point. I might go ahead and change the meeting point to an indoor location...I definitely don't want to hang out in Daley Plaza waiting for folks to arrive! So...any nearby suggesions would be appreciated.<br />
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This summer I hosted a ride that happened to fall on the day we had a horrendous wind and thunderstorm. I cancelled the ride, but still went to the starting point and found 5 people who hadn't gotten the message or hadn't RSVPed. We were fortunate to have…
I'm also thinking 15 as the cut off point. I might go ahead and change the meeting point to an indoor location...I definitely don't want to hang out in Daley Plaza waiting for folks to arrive! So...any nearby suggesions would be appreciated.<br />
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This summer I hosted a ride that happened to fall on the day we had a horrendous wind and thunderstorm. I cancelled the ride, but still went to the starting point and found 5 people who hadn't gotten the message or hadn't RSVPed. We were fortunate to have caught a window in the storm and stayed mostly dry, however we all got drenched on the way home. It was still fun, but arctic temps are a little different than summer storms. I'm guessing we won't get a window of 40 degree weather this Sunday. Heck, I'd take 30 degrees!<br />
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<cite>pistola said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/advice-pleaseis-it-ever-too?groupUrl=bikewinter&commentId=2211490%3AComment%3A268343&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#2211490Comment268334"><div>I think 15-20 degrees would be my limit for a social ride, but that depends on the wind and snow conditions as well. Hopefully it stays nice and I get my Schwinn running before sunday. Fortunately I already got my horrible sweater ready for the ride!</div>
</blockquote> democratic vote day of. i kno…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2683432010-12-09T17:55:36.056Zigzhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Iggy
democratic vote day of. i know that puts it last minute, but thruth be told, too cold is too cold, especially if you arent moving too fast becuase it is social (ive done -16, but as destination riding).<br />
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on the other hand, its a great badge of honor to claim doing a social ride in artic temps and winds...true chicago spirit.
democratic vote day of. i know that puts it last minute, but thruth be told, too cold is too cold, especially if you arent moving too fast becuase it is social (ive done -16, but as destination riding).<br />
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on the other hand, its a great badge of honor to claim doing a social ride in artic temps and winds...true chicago spirit. Last year's HHS ride was epic…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2683402010-12-09T17:54:48.305ZAndrew Bednohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/AndrewBedno
Last year's HHS ride was epic, and freezing, by nature. The point to point warm-ups worked great. Just keep it fast(er) and short(er). Thoroughly warn riders how to prep, and define cancellation conditions. But easy for me to say, I can't come.
Last year's HHS ride was epic, and freezing, by nature. The point to point warm-ups worked great. Just keep it fast(er) and short(er). Thoroughly warn riders how to prep, and define cancellation conditions. But easy for me to say, I can't come. I think 15-20 degrees would b…tag:thechainlink.org,2010-12-09:2211490:Comment:2683342010-12-09T17:49:01.043Zpistolahttps://thechainlink.org/profile/pistola
I think 15-20 degrees would be my limit for a social ride, but that depends on the wind and snow conditions as well. Hopefully it stays nice and I get my Schwinn running before sunday. Fortunately I already got my horrible sweater ready for the ride!
I think 15-20 degrees would be my limit for a social ride, but that depends on the wind and snow conditions as well. Hopefully it stays nice and I get my Schwinn running before sunday. Fortunately I already got my horrible sweater ready for the ride!