All Discussions Tagged 'intersection' - The Chainlink2024-03-29T00:59:48Zhttps://thechainlink.org/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=intersection&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLeapfrogging other cyclists @ intersectionstag:thechainlink.org,2012-04-17:2211490:Topic:5353452012-04-17T22:44:05.272ZDerekhttps://thechainlink.org/profile/Derek901
<p>So the story starts on any random commute into or out of the loop on Milwaukee. </p>
<p>A cyclist, or many cyclists, passes another rider that is moving at a casual rate, struggling to climb over a bridge, having difficulty with the wind, etc. These same cyclists stop at a red light and the peloton starts to queue up forming up a bunch of riders. Just before the light turns green said straggling rider catches up and sneaks by the group bunched up at the light to either run the red,…</p>
<p>So the story starts on any random commute into or out of the loop on Milwaukee. </p>
<p>A cyclist, or many cyclists, passes another rider that is moving at a casual rate, struggling to climb over a bridge, having difficulty with the wind, etc. These same cyclists stop at a red light and the peloton starts to queue up forming up a bunch of riders. Just before the light turns green said straggling rider catches up and sneaks by the group bunched up at the light to either run the red, sneak into the middle of a 6 way or just cut around the group of people waiting there and get to the front.</p>
<p>Maybe it’s a coincidence that the stragglers get to the light very close to when it goes green but it leads me to believe that they are experienced commuters that have a well -practiced understanding of the light’s timing. What I don’t understand is how someone who has kind of experience thinks it’s a wise idea to pass riders at a red light that are obviously going faster.</p>
<p>Have any of you run into a similar situation? I’m wondering what a good response would be.</p>
<p>Very often I’ll wait till traffic is clear and then pass, but this messes with my timing of the lights and normally results in the same cyclist catching and pulling a similar stunt at the next light. If they are catching me every light it seems reasonable that I just go slower and enjoy the ride… but short of having this song and dance happen more than once how am I supposed to know the slow poke is timing lights?</p>
<p>I’ve started getting snarky after passing someone twice and then having them try to sneak around me on the right while stopped at a light asking, “Do you really need me to pass you again?” I can understand going only as fast as the slowest rider in protected lanes but is that really my only alternative for dealing with this kind of rider?</p>
<p>Ideas? or provide a perspective from the leapfrogger? </p> Sidepaths and green lightstag:thechainlink.org,2010-11-04:2211490:Topic:2567262010-11-04T16:12:33.189ZRobert Guicohttps://thechainlink.org/profile/RobertGuico
So I ran into the back of a truck this morning, which will cost me about $90-$100 and maybe a sore shoulder for the rest of the day. (This is a minuscule fraction of the total amount of damage I've dealt behind the wheel of a car, incidentally. :-D) The incident was entirely my fault (technically, see ahead) but it highlights one of the main problems of sidepaths - people don't know you're coming.<div><br></br></div>
<div>Our village sidepath runs about 10' off the side of the road. Having done…</div>
So I ran into the back of a truck this morning, which will cost me about $90-$100 and maybe a sore shoulder for the rest of the day. (This is a minuscule fraction of the total amount of damage I've dealt behind the wheel of a car, incidentally. :-D) The incident was entirely my fault (technically, see ahead) but it highlights one of the main problems of sidepaths - people don't know you're coming.<div><br/></div>
<div>Our village sidepath runs about 10' off the side of the road. Having done this commute at least one hundred (and maybe two hundred) times, I approach my one busy intersection differently -- if the light is green and will stay green, I'll ride on through. If the light is red, I'll stop and trigger the ped signal. If the light is green and someone on the opposite side of the road is turning left, I make eye contact with the driver to make sure they see me, and either let them pass or see if they wave me through.</div>
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<div>There's one movement that's not accounted for -- 5-6 cars turning right in front of you on a green light. This morning, I thought I would wait for a gap between two turning vehicles, since that's not situation where high speeds are involved... but as it turns out, it's actually really difficult to judge the position of a turning vehicle at a future time.</div>
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<div>But I know if I stop, someone's probably going to wave me through, which can cause other unexpected movements through the intersection (right-turn on red ahead of me, left-turn on green from the other direction).</div>
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<div>What would you do?</div>