Just got this email, so don't plan to ride Divvy home today:
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I wonder if the people referring to this article about Southwest planes being stranded, as an example of "sometimes things just happen and you shouldn't whine about it," have actually read it:
The long waits between the runway and terminal are a possible violation of federal rules, and a U.S. Department of Transportation official said the government will investigate.
But I'm sure you'd argue that those passengers should shut up, forget the fares they've paid, and gratefully take whatever dregs of service, if any, Southwest deigns to provide, at whatever time it may deign to do so, rather than acting "entitled" by expecting the airline to abide by the democratically-established regulations it has agreed to operate under and to suffer consequences if it does not.
People are arguing against a straw man--the argument that Divvy should never shut down. No one in this thread has made that argument. Many people have made the argument that Divvy owes its users more (any) notice (as mentioned earlier, the email that Divvy sent out actually came well after the shutdown had begun), more information about what conditions will lead to a shutdown, and some indication as to how long a shutdown will last, or under what conditions it will be lifted.
It always amuses me how many people view their willingness to be jerked around by companies without complaint as somehow testifying to their toughness.
Actually I want to see more bikes sold at ALL bike shops and, truth be told, the shop I work at has a meager selection of really good commuter stuff because we are more of a sport shop. I would actually aim a commuter at Boulevard, Comrade, Green Machine, Roscoe Village or Ciclo Urbano instead.
Lisa Curcio 4.1 mi said:
Finally, I do not see how anyone could think Dug's statement:
I love Divvy and I think it is a HUGE gateway to getting more people on their OWN bike. This storm and shutdown issue is an excellent case for why Divvy is a great 'sometimes commute' or recreational option but the only way to be sure you can ride somewhere is to get *GASP!* A BIKE OF YOUR VERY OWN!
could be taken as based upon motivation to increase sales at the shop at which he works.
How big of a wiener you are is getting pretty ridiculous...
Adam Herstein (5.5 mi) said:
The personal attacks on this thread are getting ridiculous…
Divvy has re-opened, so you can all stop sniping at each other now.
Bullseye.
Eli said:
People are arguing against a straw man--the argument that Divvy should never shut down. No one in this thread has made that argument. Many people have made the argument that Divvy owes its users more (any) notice (as mentioned earlier, the email that Divvy sent out actually came well after the shutdown had begun), more information about what conditions will lead to a shutdown, and some indication as to how long a shutdown will last, or under what conditions it will be lifted.
It always amuses me how many people view their willingness to be jerked around by companies without complaint as somehow testifying to their toughness.
Supposed to get really cold on Monday. Probably going to shut down again, right?
yaj 7.4 said:
Divvy has re-opened, so you can all stop sniping at each other now.
So, uh...
just wondering.
How is it that car sharing is supposed to get people to move away from owning their own cars, but bike sharing is a supposed to be a gateway to people purchasing their own bikes?
I love Divvy and I think it is a HUGE gateway to getting more people on their OWN bike.
Because a high percentage of people own cars and, in theory, only need to use them occasionally: thus, car sharing allows them to use a car occasionally without spending thousands of dollars annually for upkeep, parking, insurance, etc.
By contrast, a low percentage of people bike in the city. Divvy is a friendly-looking program that might help otherwise-interested people get past their "activiation energy barrier" to try it out, and if they discovery they like it, they might buy a bike for more regular use or for longer rides.
But I imagine you know this. :)
h' 1.0 said:
So, uh...
just wondering.
How is it that car sharing is supposed to get people to move away from owning their own cars, but bike sharing is a supposed to be a gateway to people purchasing their own bikes?
It's great that Divvy is opened. But has anyone else called them & asked about getting a refund for the 2 days it was closed?
Class action suit! Is there a lawyer in the house?
El Dorado said:
It's great that Divvy is opened. But has anyone else called them & asked about getting a refund for the 2 days it was closed?
Er, yeah.... but it doesn't really work because it ignores whether the people who don't ride bicycles daily do actually own bicycles, and it ignores whether some percentage of Divvy users have at least one bicycle of their own.
Alex Z said:
Because a high percentage of people own cars and, in theory, only need to use them occasionally: thus, car sharing allows them to use a car occasionally without spending thousands of dollars annually for upkeep, parking, insurance, etc.
By contrast, a low percentage of people bike in the city. Divvy is a friendly-looking program that might help otherwise-interested people get past their "activiation energy barrier" to try it out, and if they discovery they like it, they might buy a bike for more regular use or for longer rides.
But I imagine you know this. :)
h' 1.0 said:So, uh...
just wondering.
How is it that car sharing is supposed to get people to move away from owning their own cars, but bike sharing is a supposed to be a gateway to people purchasing their own bikes?
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