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A new bike lock idea

A friend of mine sent this link to me. (I/we have no affiliation with the maker or the kickstarter account.) I thought it looked kind of interesting...

TiGr Titanium lock.

 

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Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on July 21, 2012 at 1:50am

once again I will say this:

With the right blade that will cut as quick, or quicker if you can get the right angle on the cut, than a U-lock. 

If you like it great but don't fool yourself thinking it is somehow better than a less expensive U-lock when it comes to locking up your bike.  I have significant experience working with Ti and I can tell you for a fact that it cuts very easy with a grinder.  Look into it's properties compared to well hardened steel alloys and you will be surprised as to just how weak it is in certain conditions.

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on July 21, 2012 at 5:01am

I think the video linked in this thread clearly shows how "weak" it is.  It's about as easy or hard to cut as a heavier Kryptonite.  So, if the folks who have bought them and like them feel they're worth the premium over a heavy Kryptonite, I have no argument.

"Peace of mind" on its own is certainly not an argument, as these locks are not more secure than much cheaper Kryptonites, but presumably the proponents are happy about some of the lock's other qualities.

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on July 21, 2012 at 5:01am

Just to be clear, you do realize these locks are not harder to defeat than a quality U-lock . . .?

Also, just curious-- you personally know at least 10 individuals who have had U-lock and cable combinations cut to steal their bikes? Can you elaborate a bit? That's kind of astounding.

Robert said:

 Enough counts to fill two hands of friends who have used ulock plus cable combos to protect now stolen bikes..... It's most definitely worth it.
Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on July 21, 2012 at 5:04am

The only thing nagging at me a little is the time in the video for angle grinder cut (was it 46 seconds?)

My perception is that a typical cordless grinder would take longer than a corded grinder.  Would love to take a chack at one of these with my Ryobi or maybe Martin's Bosch . . . anyone volunteer theirs?

Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on July 21, 2012 at 7:45am

We have both a corded and cordless at the shop; if you get the lock, or even just the steel bar, to do it I would happily host a test.  It is going to depend more on the brand than type of grinder I think.  I bet a good cordless grinder can beat a cheap corded one and vise-verse assuming the same blade.

h' said:

The only thing nagging at me a little is the time in the video for angle grinder cut (was it 46 seconds?)

My perception is that a typical cordless grinder would take longer than a corded grinder.  Would love to take a chack at one of these with my Ryobi or maybe Martin's Bosch . . . anyone volunteer theirs?

Permalink Reply by Roscoe Village Bikes on July 21, 2012 at 7:56am

We just ordered in a sample for the shop which we should see in a few days if anyone wants to see one in person.  We're considering stocking a few if people are interested. 

Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on July 21, 2012 at 8:04am

Does anyone know what the MSRP of these locks is?

Permalink Reply by h' Zerocats on July 21, 2012 at 8:05am

Can we set up a time to have a public destroying?

Roscoe Village Bikes said:

We just ordered in a sample for the shop which we should see in a few days if anyone wants to see one in person.  We're considering stocking a few if people are interested. 

Permalink Reply by Joe Willis on July 21, 2012 at 8:15am

James,

$165-$200

h',

 I'm in!
h' said:

Can we set up a time to have a public destroying?

Roscoe Village Bikes said:

We just ordered in a sample for the shop which we should see in a few days if anyone wants to see one in person.  We're considering stocking a few if people are interested. 

Permalink Reply by Far'arned Retrogrumpalunkus #63 on July 21, 2012 at 8:29am

Oh, so we are talking about ABUS level pricing then.   

Quite a bit lighter though.  The website lists that as about a pound or a pound and a half depending on the model.  Now that I got off my ass and finally Googled it myself I see the MSRP as well.

Joe Willis said:

James,

$165-$200

Permalink Reply by S on July 21, 2012 at 10:19am

+1 on this.  Check google and you'll see a bunch of people who have reported significant frame damage because their tire ended up rubbing against their Ti frame and that created a significant gouge in the frame.

notoriousDUG said:

once again I will say this:

With the right blade that will cut as quick, or quicker if you can get the right angle on the cut, than a U-lock. 

If you like it great but don't fool yourself thinking it is somehow better than a less expensive U-lock when it comes to locking up your bike.  I have significant experience working with Ti and I can tell you for a fact that it cuts very easy with a grinder.  Look into it's properties compared to well hardened steel alloys and you will be surprised as to just how weak it is in certain conditions.

Permalink Reply by Robert on July 21, 2012 at 1:46pm

i disagree. i think it makes a thief's job much more difficult... creating the "i'll pass on this and hit what I'm familiar with" opportunity... to me, that's a great accomplishment for a lock. My bike, locked in a smart place has a better chance of staying my bike.

h' said:

Just to be clear, you do realize these locks are not harder to defeat than a quality U-lock . . .?

Also, just curious-- you personally know at least 10 individuals who have had U-lock and cable combinations cut to steal their bikes? Can you elaborate a bit? That's kind of astounding.

Robert said:

 Enough counts to fill two hands of friends who have used ulock plus cable combos to protect now stolen bikes..... It's most definitely worth it.

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