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Permalink Reply by heather s on April 10, 2010 at 11:22am

I agree, some cyclists do behave recklessly and are at fault in collisions. The only thing I would say in this case is, do you think the cyclist would have lost his shit like that if he was obviously to blame? I mean, he doesn't seem like a very reasonable or smart guy, so who knows. But I'm remembering times when I've had near-misses or been hit, because I was doing something stupid, and well, it's hard to be mad at anyone except myself when that happens.

Michelle Green said:

So I'm going to assume (perhaps with willful naivete) that nobody will think that I'm on the side of a hit and run driver ever, BUT! But. Sometimes cyclists ARE AT FAULT when they get hit while doing stupid shit. I obviously don't know if that was the case in this instance or not, but maaaaaybe the driver was absolutely obeying the law (until he ditched) and was at no more than an utterly average risk of hitting responsible pedestrians or cyclists. JUST CONSIDER IT.

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Permalink Reply by Michelle Green on April 10, 2010 at 11:50am

I would hope certainly hope not, but there was a comment from a supposed eye witness further down the page who said he was weaving in and out and came out of nowhere when he got hit in the first place... clearly that could be completely false or wrong, but yeah... I mean... it's hard to say either way, given the evidence of this guy's ability to go cuh-razy. Bizarre situation all around.

heather stratton said:

I agree, some cyclists do behave recklessly and are at fault in collisions. The only thing I would say in this case is, do you think the cyclist would have lost his shit like that if he was obviously to blame? I mean, he doesn't seem like a very reasonable or smart guy, so who knows. But I'm remembering times when I've had near-misses or been hit, because I was doing something stupid, and well, it's hard to be mad at anyone except myself when that happens.

Michelle Green said:

So I'm going to assume (perhaps with willful naivete) that nobody will think that I'm on the side of a hit and run driver ever, BUT! But. Sometimes cyclists ARE AT FAULT when they get hit while doing stupid shit. I obviously don't know if that was the case in this instance or not, but maaaaaybe the driver was absolutely obeying the law (until he ditched) and was at no more than an utterly average risk of hitting responsible pedestrians or cyclists. JUST CONSIDER IT.

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Permalink Reply by Doug Haynes on April 10, 2010 at 6:45pm

Just some food for thought:

Did you ever notice that when the cyclist gets hit and then destroys a car or starts a fight you never hear much about the diver, even if at fault, getting any tickets?

Do you ever wonder if it is because the motorist becomes a victim in the eyes of the authorities if he has a black eye and a smashed car when they show up?

The guy who crashed mass on Division last year should have gone to jail but he didn't because by the time the cops showed he had his shirt torn off, was bleeding and obviously beaten and they took him to be the victim when if no one had touched him he would have been the aggressor.

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Permalink Reply by Tank-Ridin' Ryan on April 10, 2010 at 7:50pm

Oh wow! That is making QUITE the assumption! And to add to it, there is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, in the article to even imply that this limo driver usually clips cyclists while driving.

Tony Adams said:

We'll never know who that driver was gonna run into or over next. At least in the hospital or wherever they took him he was not in a position (behind the wheel) to do any more harm with his death machine.

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