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"There are two things you don’t want to see being made—sausage and legislation." Attributed to Otto von Bismark (1815-1898),
What we are attempting here is similar to making sausage.
We gag at the smell on the farm.
We puke at the slaughter house.
We are appalled at the sausage factory methods.
But somehow after it is smoked, aged, and wrapped up with a nice paper label: It is not too bad.
I think there is way too many post by some people.
I propose we set some kind guidelines.
Some thing like only 1 post per forum per day.
More than that turns into mindless chatter or may look like petty bickering.
I have seen some use their barrage of post in a few minutes as their form of CENSORSHIP.
They just try to "bury" the different point of view by moving it back so many pages out of sight.
" I think there is way too many post by some people.
I propose we set some kind guidelines.
Some thing like only 1 post per forum per day.
More than that turns into mindless chatter or may look like petty bickering.
I have seen some use their barrage of post in a few minutes as their form of CENSORSHIP.
They just try to "bury" the different point of view by moving it back so many pages out of sight.
Spencer, what happened to your little "Ring" discussion and keeping "snipes" over there? It would be really great to have a dialogue instead of endless pot shots. Who exactly was the "grandfather" crack aimed at?
Speaking of snipes, "PDA posse?" :P You know now I am going to make a T-Shirt which reads "Official Critical Mass PDA Posse."
Nah it wasn't aimed at anyone specific because EVERYONE says this. And not just the cats in the CCM thread. For example my friends in the Chicago thrash/power-violence scene who were rockin it in the 90's. They complain that Chicago punk just isn't what it used to be or isn't fun anymore. And yeah Powerviolence doesn't exist anymore and their bands have broken up but that doesn't mean "punk is dead." It's just jaded nonsense. Chicago Punk is freakin' great today but just different and Critical Mass is absolutely as fun, for me, as it was when I first accidentally ran into the Mass. Hell, I would argue it's only gotten better. Well... The cop escort thing annoys me but other than that, better!
So back to the original point, when I hear people say things like that, I remember my Grandfather railing against kids today.
Yeah most of the time I am posting from my phone and the Chainlink is terrible with phones.
So, I saw this discussion...
I'm not really sure what Doug did on Friday...I saw him a few times during the ride. THe only thing I wish he had done was mention going to Relax earlier so that we could have taken the ride that way.
Also, I don't believe that Howard led the ride north. Unless I'm experiencing delusions of grandeur, I'm rather certain that I was in front for a good part of the way. Howard was nearby and made some route suggestions, but it seemed like he wasn't there so much.
And all of you are rather pleasant offline...your internet personas really seem to clash here. And, as someone who isn't super involved in the critical mass movement (i'm actually really on the fence about the whole thing), I am rather intimidated to do critical mass things since there does seem to be such a tradition and pressure to do things "right."
Hope that makes sense. I won't be on the ride next month, so I'll have to see if I can make the May Mass.
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