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My recent bike build: FUJI PALISADES ( Valite tubing)FIXED GEAR CONVERSION



This bike was originally a 8 or 10 speed with suntour derailers, dia compe brakes, 27 inch steel rims with a suntour freewheel cassette.....I rebuilt her for this cool russian guy up north.

Fuji built the Palisades using valite tubing, tubing from their own inhouse foundry( I believe)...The bike was incredible light before I stripped her, and I made her even lighter by getting rid all of that shifting mechanism crap (lol...I kid ...I kid) and adding the the following components:




- New blue F.U.B.A.R bar tape

- New blue velo racing saddle

- Refurbished Alex R450 rims

- New CST Czar tires with blue stripes

- Nitto stem and handle bars ( chopped and flipped)

- Polished Sugino cranks and chainrings(42t).

- Used Cog 16t ( Polished and Protected)

- Chainrings bolts were grinded down to 5mm for custom fitting

- New KMC Z410 Single Speed chain

- Polished Dia Compe side pull Caliper Brakes

- Refurbished Dirty Harry cross lever

- New housing and cabling

- 3 piece bottom bracket was disassembled- de-greased- re-greased and re-assembled

- headset was was disassembled- de-greased- re-greased and re-assembled

- Used Christophe toe cages

- Polished Mikashima AR-5 pedals












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Nice conversion. Me likey

Anybody crazy enough to reshape hub cones deserves a tip o' the hat.
Also as far as the label orientation of the tire to valve, it's not mandatory.....use your eyes to find punctures:

Sheldon Brown himself:

"While there's an element of truth to this, placing the label consistently is really more about pride of workmanship and attention to detail."


It really has shit to do with finding punctures......
So what is basically the cheapest (actually it's a great value, low price decent quality) fixed wheel set on the market today now counts as 'vintage?' Sweet, I am so selling my wheel set now, it has to be worth a fortune because it's 'vintage!'

I would buy new chain ring bolts because it's doing it the 'right' way, same goes for the bars. Now this is not to say I would not do that on my own bike, because I have, but then again I was doing that on my own bike, not one I was building for somebody else...

My daily ride is all cartridge bearing and it spins as smooth as glass and is pretty much service free. In fact I would say the wheels spin at least as good as my loose ball ones on the fixed gear and I know for a fact that the cartridge bottom bracket on my fixed gear spins smoother then the loose ball one ever did.

ishnock aka the blue baron said:
The rims are not brand new,so thank you for the compliment ...I bought them used
from vintage bike shop on Milwaukee and division...they were horrible at first,a lot of grinding in the hubs because the bearings
were shit,and the dust cap cones needed to be reshaped.....I did all off that,plus I polished those bad babys with simichrome and some serious elbow grease.....

Why buy new chainring bolts when you have a hacksaw and a grinder in the shop???...
That's lazy.

Why buy crappy off the shelf bullhorns when you got a hacksaw and a grinder in the shop????...

Nothing compares to loose bearings....you will not get the same silky smooth revolution .the spin with 3 piece bottom brackets is like
heaven when you are pedaling.

Thank you Doug! FINALLY someone actually got it. I just wish it was bluebaron instead.

Now, baron, don't you have some sawing and filing to do?

notoriousDUG said:
Don't cut off the derailer hanger; why make a bike less versatile? If you want a clean hanger free look GO BUY A REAL TRACK FRAME! Cutting of hangers, shifter mounts and other stuff is just ruining a frame for others. ishnock aka the blue baron said:
I am a man got damn it !...lol

I use 3 piece bottom brackets..none of that sealed cartridge crap..... I sand off all oxidation, prime and touch up paint with automobile paint pens

I overhaul hubs for crying out loud

nothing but loose bearings in my headsets....no retainers!

I grind my own chainring nuts got damit!!!...lol

I cut my own bars.....

I am a man!......I ate some gun powder and hung a needle nose plier from my gonads while building this bike....


I AM MAN!!!!!!



Tank-Ridin' Ryan said:
Be a man and hacksaw that hanger!
In my specs, I said nothing about vintage ...It clearly says refurbished rims, meaning they were repaired, which they were.

Vingtage bike shop is just the name of the shop because they take old vintage bikes and rebuild them.


As far as chainring bolts ...Its called customizing, being creative and making your own pieces, and not depending on someone else or wasting money....so hopefully, one day, I might be able to sell my own customized bolts to lazy fuckers such as yourself.

The patron wanted me to re-use his double ring crankset, and since the bolts on the chainring were kickass and beautiful, I customized them to fit the inner ring that I took from the crankset.

As far as what you explicated regarding cartridge bottom brackets, you can go jump in lake michigan with that .. . I'll take an old three piece bottom bracket, refurbish that fucker, and make any cartridge on the market look like shit......and while you're constantly throwing away bottom brackets at 30 dollars a pop, I'll be riding silky smooth with the same bottom bracket over and over and over and over and over.







notoriousDUG said:
So what is basically the cheapest (actually it's a great value, low price decent quality) fixed wheel set on the market today now counts as 'vintage?' Sweet, I am so selling my wheel set now, it has to be worth a fortune because it's 'vintage!'
I would buy new chain ring bolts because it's doing it the 'right' way, same goes for the bars. Now this is not to say I would not do that on my own bike, because I have, but then again I was doing that on my own bike, not one I was building for somebody else...
My daily ride is all cartridge bearing and it spins as smooth as glass and is pretty much service free. In fact I would say the wheels spin at least as good as my loose ball ones on the fixed gear and I know for a fact that the cartridge bottom bracket on my fixed gear spins smoother then the loose ball one ever did.

ishnock aka the blue baron said:
The rims are not brand new,so thank you for the compliment ...I bought them used
from vintage bike shop on Milwaukee and division...they were horrible at first,a lot of grinding in the hubs because the bearings
were shit,and the dust cap cones needed to be reshaped.....I did all off that,plus I polished those bad babys with simichrome and some serious elbow grease..... Why buy new chainring bolts when you have a hacksaw and a grinder in the shop???...
That's lazy.

Why buy crappy off the shelf bullhorns when you got a hacksaw and a grinder in the shop????...

Nothing compares to loose bearings....you will not get the same silky smooth revolution .the spin with 3 piece bottom brackets is like
heaven when you are pedaling.

Translation:
Thanks for the feedback!

ishnock aka the blue baron said:
In my specs, I said nothing about vintage ...It clearly says refurbished rims, meaning they were repaired, which they were.

Vingtage bike shop is just the name of the shop because they take old vintage bikes and rebuild them.


As far as chainring bolts ...Its called customizing, being creative and making your own pieces, and not depending on someone else or wasting money....so hopefully, one day, I might be able to sell my own customized bolts to lazy fuckers such as yourself.

The patron wanted me to re-use his double ring crankset, and since the bolts on the chainring were kickass and beautiful, I customized them to fit the inner ring that I took from the crankset.

As far as what you explicated regarding cartridge bottom brackets, you can go jump in lake michigan with that .. . I'll take an old three piece bottom bracket, refurbish that fucker, and make any cartridge on the market look like shit......and while you're constantly throwing away bottom brackets at 30 dollars a pop, I'll be riding silky smooth with the same bottom bracket over and over and over and over and over.







notoriousDUG said:
So what is basically the cheapest (actually it's a great value, low price decent quality) fixed wheel set on the market today now counts as 'vintage?' Sweet, I am so selling my wheel set now, it has to be worth a fortune because it's 'vintage!'
I would buy new chain ring bolts because it's doing it the 'right' way, same goes for the bars. Now this is not to say I would not do that on my own bike, because I have, but then again I was doing that on my own bike, not one I was building for somebody else...
My daily ride is all cartridge bearing and it spins as smooth as glass and is pretty much service free. In fact I would say the wheels spin at least as good as my loose ball ones on the fixed gear and I know for a fact that the cartridge bottom bracket on my fixed gear spins smoother then the loose ball one ever did.

ishnock aka the blue baron said:
The rims are not brand new,so thank you for the compliment ...I bought them used
from vintage bike shop on Milwaukee and division...they were horrible at first,a lot of grinding in the hubs because the bearings
were shit,and the dust cap cones needed to be reshaped.....I did all off that,plus I polished those bad babys with simichrome and some serious elbow grease..... Why buy new chainring bolts when you have a hacksaw and a grinder in the shop???...
That's lazy.

Why buy crappy off the shelf bullhorns when you got a hacksaw and a grinder in the shop????...

Nothing compares to loose bearings....you will not get the same silky smooth revolution .the spin with 3 piece bottom brackets is like
heaven when you are pedaling.

ishnock aka the blue baron said:
In my specs, I said nothing about vintage ...It clearly says refurbished rims, meaning they were repaired, which they were.

Vingtage bike shop is just the name of the shop because they take old vintage bikes and rebuild them.


As far as chainring bolts ...Its called customizing, being creative and making your own pieces, and not depending on someone else or wasting money....so hopefully, one day, I might be able to sell my own customized bolts to lazy fuckers such as yourself.

The patron wanted me to re-use his double ring crankset, and since the bolts on the chainring were kickass and beautiful, I customized them to fit the inner ring that I took from the crankset.

As far as what you explicated regarding cartridge bottom brackets, you can go jump in lake michigan with that .. . I'll take an old three piece bottom bracket, refurbish that fucker, and make any cartridge on the market look like shit......and while you're constantly throwing away bottom brackets at 30 dollars a pop, I'll be riding silky smooth with the same bottom bracket over and over and over and over and over.

Wow, I really wish that had properly saved everything I had typed out...

Long story short somebody paid you to do that and you chose to hack up something rather then make the right part. You did not 'customize' the bolts, you modified the incorrect part to work and, depending on how it was done and the precision to which you did it may have created a part that is a problem or future headache waiting to happen. Mind you, I have done the exact same thing, on my own bike but this is something you are doing for another person and, I assume, for money.

As for bottom brackets you do know your loose ball one wears out as well, those cups are not going to last forever no matter how much you grease and adjust them. Mine is going to last for a year or two with little to no maintenance; the time I would spend maintaining the loose ball BB is worth the small extra cost. I'm sorry but a good set of sealed bearing are going to spin just as well as loose ball ones; if loose ball bearings where so much better why do you never see them used in any kind of machinery or equipment?

Oh, and trim the cable housing!
We agree to disagree.

thanx.

notoriousDUG said:
Wow, I really wish that had properly saved everything I had typed out...

Long story short somebody paid you to do that and you chose to hack up something rather then make the right part. You did not 'customize' the bolts, you modified the incorrect part to work and, depending on how it was done and the precision to which you did it may have created a part that is a problem or future headache waiting to happen. Mind you, I have done the exact same thing, on my own bike but this is something you are doing for another person and, I assume, for money.

As for bottom brackets you do know your loose ball one wears out as well, those cups are not going to last forever no matter how much you grease and adjust them. Mine is going to last for a year or two with little to no maintenance; the time I would spend maintaining the loose ball BB is worth the small extra cost. I'm sorry but a good set of sealed bearing are going to spin just as well as loose ball ones; if loose ball bearings where so much better why do you never see them used in any kind of machinery or equipment?

Oh, and trim the cable housing!
I doubt that's the way Doug feels about it.

ishnock aka the blue baron said:
We agree to disagree.

thanx.

notoriousDUG said:
Wow, I really wish that had properly saved everything I had typed out...

Long story short somebody paid you to do that and you chose to hack up something rather then make the right part. You did not 'customize' the bolts, you modified the incorrect part to work and, depending on how it was done and the precision to which you did it may have created a part that is a problem or future headache waiting to happen. Mind you, I have done the exact same thing, on my own bike but this is something you are doing for another person and, I assume, for money.

As for bottom brackets you do know your loose ball one wears out as well, those cups are not going to last forever no matter how much you grease and adjust them. Mine is going to last for a year or two with little to no maintenance; the time I would spend maintaining the loose ball BB is worth the small extra cost. I'm sorry but a good set of sealed bearing are going to spin just as well as loose ball ones; if loose ball bearings where so much better why do you never see them used in any kind of machinery or equipment?

Oh, and trim the cable housing!
A vintage shop is one who cares about the era pieces come from and the way they fit into society. You are talking about a used bike shop . One that sells old used bikes that have been modified. A vintage bike shop restores to ORIGINAL condition.
Tomayto...tomahto... some of this back-and-forth reminds me of something out of Gulliver's Travels -which end of the egg do YOU break?

De gustibus non disputandum est.

Nice conversion, even tho' i'm not a big fan of fixie conversions. But for g-d's sake DON'T cut off the hanger!

Don't just ride that bike, ride the HELL out of it. Enjoy.

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