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Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
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My father was involved in an cyclist-cyclist accident on the Robert McClory trail on July 4th near downtown Lake Bluff between 8-9am. It appears it was not his fault and the at-fault parties (not…Continue

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Started this discussion. Last reply by ketoguychicago Jul 15, 2019.

 

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ketoguychicago replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"It is mainstream is for people things like birth certificates and social security numbers. Also mainstream of course the registration of motorcycles and boats and snowmobiles and and and... all pretty basic."
Jul 15, 2019
Anne Alt replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"+1"
Jul 14, 2019
ketoguychicago replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"I think I agree - personal responsibility would be the way to go, while the crux of what you rightly point out is likely that Dutch may exhibit a different set of social norms in certain respects.   There is in common law a "duty to…"
Jul 12, 2019
Tooscrapps replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"And yet the Dutch have figured out how to "norm" cycling without mandatory registration, licensing, and insurance. You still are responsible if you injure somebody, even if it's using something that isn't "registered".…"
Jul 12, 2019
ketoguychicago replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"Generally speaking, because they aren't otherwise as prone to being stolen or to be involved in collisions at the rate of pedal cycles and motorcycles. "
Jul 12, 2019
David P. replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"Hey, why don't we make *people* register too? Everyone puts a license plate on their back and front."
Jul 12, 2019
ketoguychicago replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"Well, it solves a lot, like the lack of registration for one, and everything that comes with that including the lack of accountability such as we just read about involving the injured party above.  And it is enforceable as well of course, such…"
Jul 12, 2019
mike w. replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"Three words: Solves nothing; unenforceable."
Jul 11, 2019
ketoguychicago replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"Two words:  Bicycle Registration Registration is a key step in elevating the status and norming of cycling.  We have it for cars and motorcycles to help drive accountability, and need it for bikes, and such is the root of a host of…"
Jul 11, 2019
Mark replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"That happened to me a few years ago on the LFT north of Belmont.  Dog on one side of the trail, man facing away on the other side of the trail.  I didn't see a leash until the last second.  I braked hard and fortunately the man…"
Jul 11, 2019
mike w. replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"i'm recalling an incident on a trail a couple of years ago where a man suffered fatal injuries when a dog's leash became entangled in his wheel. It may have been on the North Shore trail? To the best of my knowledge dog and its owner were…"
Jul 11, 2019
David P. replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"What a s***ty thing that person did. I'm sorry for your father's injury, but I'm glad that he appears to be on the way to recovery. "
Jul 11, 2019
Cooper Hofstad replied to N B's discussion Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs
"That's terrible, and I hope your father recovers quickly.   Unfortunately, sounds like you're correct.  As a general rule, it's not a crime to leave any scene at which you have engaged in non-criminal, tortious…"
Jul 10, 2019
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Potential legal grey area on non-'roadway' bike trails for hit and runs

My father was involved in an cyclist-cyclist accident on the Robert McClory trail on July 4th near downtown Lake Bluff between 8-9am. It appears it was not his fault and the at-fault parties (not injured) refused to identify themselves or stay around until emergency responders arrived. My father broke his neck and had to surgery + stay in the hospital for an additional 5 days. His helmet saved his life and he will likely recover.I spoke with the Lake Bluff police and they told me that basically…See More
Jul 10, 2019
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